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In reply to the discussion: Robert Reich on the Real Reason the Corporate-Friendly TPP Is Nearly Dead [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)102. I am sure that everyone appreciates your commitment to exposing my pratfalls. Even I appreciate your
'evidence-free' "exposures". It actually helps make my case.
If one day you do come across some polling data that substantiates your opinion that the Democratic base has learned to reject the FDR/Truman approach to trade, please feel free to post it. I promise not to 'expose' your 'pratfalls' in doing so but to focus on the content of your post. So far I have only seen evidence that the republican base rejects the FDR/Truman approach but they have rejected it all along.
There was some poll where those polled people who identified as "Democrats" said they would, in general, support Presidential fast track authority -- but the question wasn't asked specifically in regards to TPP.
... you first posted on this thread the unsourced assertion that "since polls show most Democrats support TPP", and then, when I called you out on it, you expanded that to "...and fast track".
... you first posted on this thread the unsourced assertion that "since polls show most Democrats support TPP", and then, when I called you out on it, you expanded that to "...and fast track".
I have posted these polls many times. If you have not seen them, or feel that I should have reposted them, I apologize for not repeating them in my earlier post.

Democrats were specifically asked about TPP.
Poll done in April of Democrats only:
Initial TPA Ballot
Q5. From what you have heard, do you granting President Obama trade promotion authority?
Strongly support 25%
Somewhat support 39%
Somewhat oppose 13%
Strongly oppose 8%
Don't know 14%
SUPPORT 64%
OPPOSE 21%
Initial TPP Ballot
Q7. From what you have heard, do you President Obama's proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement?
Strongly support 20%
Somewhat support 31%
Somewhat oppose 10%
Strongly oppose 8%
Don't know 30%
SUPPORT 52%
OPPOSE 18%
http://static1.squarespace.com/static/54e2b1d1e4b043f1c9a2a9ed/t/55424db8e4b04641a244468d/1430408665168/trade-poll.pdf
They support TPP and fast track.
Poll: conservative and moderate republicans oppose fast track (for the TPP) by a ratio of 85 percent or higher.
On the question of fast-track authority, 62 percent of respondent opposed the idea, with 43 percent strongly opposing it. Broken down by political affiliation, only Democrats that identify as liberal strongly favor the idea. Predictably, a strong Republican majority oppose giving the president such authority, with both conservative and moderates oppose it by a ratio of 85 percent or higher.
http://www.ibtimes.com/trans-pacific-partnership-tpp-poll-only-strongest-obama-supporters-want-him-have-fast-track-1552039
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Robert Reich on the Real Reason the Corporate-Friendly TPP Is Nearly Dead [View all]
kentuck
Jun 2015
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As someone said the general public probably doesn't know what they are talking about
Rosa Luxemburg
Jun 2015
#74
Proponents of TPP on DU come on here and say, "Those jobs are going away TPP or no TPP."
Enthusiast
Jun 2015
#3
But you haven't decided your position on TPP yet because the details haven't been made public
LondonReign2
Jun 2015
#35
No ... I haven't taken a position on TPP because what is in it hasn't been made public ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jun 2015
#38
He has not "sided against the party" since polls show most Democrats support TPP.
pampango
Jun 2015
#79
Rather than going after me, it would be helpful if you posted the polls showing opposition of the
pampango
Jun 2015
#99
I am sure that everyone appreciates your commitment to exposing my pratfalls. Even I appreciate your
pampango
Jun 2015
#102
Again, you post nothing to back up your opinion. If these polls are bogus, you should have an easy
pampango
Jun 2015
#105
You may be correct but look at what has happened to labeling our meat (food) products because
jwirr
Jun 2015
#43
You realize most anti-free-traders also support terminating the H1-B program, right? n/t
Chan790
Jun 2015
#64
already coming back, but to different parts of the country, with lower wages.
redruddyred
Jun 2015
#92
Wrong. When I asked my Senators about the TPP they both gave me bullshit but were sure
rhett o rick
Jun 2015
#72
The side that's standing on the track waiting to see if the train will really run over them. nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2015
#87
From the history of your posts, I assume you don't mind making favored partners out of anti gay
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2015
#112
they don't understand because they are among those who benefit from pimping off American jobs
Skittles
Jun 2015
#62
But I believe they do care, I have to. I love this country too much as I know they do.
raouldukelives
Jun 2015
#84
Yes! Trade can be used as a tool to improve global working conditions and labor while at the
Ed Suspicious
Jun 2015
#13
Let 'em cry protectionism. It's been so long since we have had protectionism, they no longer
Enthusiast
Jun 2015
#22
Agreed. And that's what Scandinavian countries do. Their RW populist parties want tariffs
pampango
Jun 2015
#80
They spent decades dirtying the tariff word along with the liberal word and others.
Enthusiast
Jun 2015
#23
I would agree. The tarriff is one of the tools that can be used and they take it away because
jwirr
Jun 2015
#71
When FDR reversed Herbert Hoover's high tariffs and proposed the International Trade Organization.
pampango
Jun 2015
#81
I love that idea. Regional businesses could still make a reasonable profit and supply jobs.
jwirr
Jun 2015
#46
Yep, just like NAFTA, CAFTA, the Uruguay GATT/WTO, Korea, and all the others.
Elwood P Dowd
Jun 2015
#49
ITO/GATT - FDR/Truman, NAFTA & WTO - Clinton, Korea - Obama, only CAFTA (the smallest) - Bush.
pampango
Jun 2015
#82
It's been unfettered, alright. Laissez-faire or whatever you want to call it,
Enthusiast
Jun 2015
#27
it's b/c fool me once shame on........ shame on you?.............. fool me we cant get fooled again
Romeo.lima333
Jun 2015
#30
You mean fake "free trade". Our so called "free trade" deals, including TPP, are nothing more
Elwood P Dowd
Jun 2015
#47
Do not stop calling Congress and Whitehouse to express opposition to these global corporate
Dont call me Shirley
Jun 2015
#55