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Retrograde

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21. And mostly rural
Mon May 14, 2012, 10:26 PM
May 2012

and (sadly) largely right-leaning. I grew up in western New York (as my sister calls it, the Upper West Side), go back there about every six months: the Appalachians extend into New York. Wyoming county, just east of Buffalo, has more cattle than people - and cattle rustlers - they steal veal calves. New York is IIRC the second largest dairy state, the second largest apple producing state, one of the bigger grape growing states (and one of the early wine producing ones). There are large Amish communities in the western counties, and the Seneca Nation is a big political power there. The Buffalo area is a large port of entry for the US (when I was growing up Canada was the place to go swimming, and to get Chinese food).

I like Manhattan, but there's a lot more to the state.

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