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MFrohike

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54. Fun thread

Wed Aug 5, 2015, 06:59 PM

Aug 2015

I confess to being completely baffled by the defenders of the administration. This spying, call it what it is, was completely predictable. The security organs ALWAYS spy on anybody who's not kissing the rings of the wealthy and/or powerful. This has been documented so many times in our history that it's tiring to list them all. So, given all that, why is anyone making the weak defense that the president didn't know? If he actually didn't know and didn't anticipate this entirely predictable development, then he's too dumb to be president. I don't know of anybody, outside of people too dumb to tie their shoes, that actually thinks Barack Obama is too dumb to be president.

He knew it would happen. American history is clear as day on that subject. He either approved it or didn't stand in the way of it, but don't actually try to argue that a smart man is completely unaware of the obsession of the security organs when it comes to spying on American citizens.

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ACLU: The Government Is Watching #BlackLivesMatter, And It’s Not Okay [View all] marmar Aug 2015 OP

Can't even pretend to be shocked. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #1

So Obama is ok with this? This is totally crazy. jalan48 Aug 2015 #2

All I know is: heaven05 Aug 2015 #6

I thought J. Edgar was dead. AllFieldsRequired Aug 2015 #51

Obama does not know all and control all. I realize certain folks believe all black men are super human, but still. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #7

Yes-that could be. But now that it's public I'm sure he will put a stop to it. jalan48 Aug 2015 #8

Folks in the GOP pretending Obama is not beloved by black folk in America are funny are they not? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #9

You think the ACLU is GOP? jalan48 Aug 2015 #10

Do you not think Obama and BLM are one and the same? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #11

Oh-sorry, I thought you were referring to the article. I've always been a fan of the ACLU myself. jalan48 Aug 2015 #13

Of course not. I would assume he supports them though. jalan48 Aug 2015 #15

I have no doubt that 8 years ago, the story hughee99 Aug 2015 #12

Yes. Some folks know who really watches the black folks carefully, and with fear, and it is not Obama. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #16

True, but now that Obama (or at least his people) are aware of it, this will surely stop hughee99 Aug 2015 #19

Because Obama controls all of the judicial, security and surveillance system from his WH Black Magic room? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #20

Uh, he is the president. He's in charge of the executive branch. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #48

Are these the same alledged guys who spied on Germany and Brazil? Where was Obama on that also, one might also ask - using Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #50

Well, those were probably NSA guys, while these are probably Homeland Security guys. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #52

Yeah because Obama is all powerful like that ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #21

You miss the point. jalan48 Aug 2015 #23

Give it up, your "point" fell off the logic train an hour ago. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #25

Ah yes, I see you are a true believer Fred. jalan48 Aug 2015 #26

I am bored of the folks believing in nothing more than generalities and slaps to the intellect, is all. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #29

Hey, it's all good. At least the government is spying on both sides. jalan48 Aug 2015 #30

A chance to slam Obama because....reasons!....but rather incompetently played out, so it is all good. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #24

If you're looking for imcompetence, take a look at the "Obama has no control over his own agencies" hughee99 Aug 2015 #33

Fred, I thought about it and I think you may be right. jalan48 Aug 2015 #41

The think some folks have been playing too long in open fields of strawmen. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #46

Absolutely. Who can you trust these days? jalan48 Aug 2015 #47

Such an unbelievable bullshit copout. hughee99 Aug 2015 #32

I think it's called the inability to think critically. Not sure it can be fixed quickly. jalan48 Aug 2015 #34

You know that really hurt my feelings ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #37

I'm sorry. How else do you explain folks being ok with the Obama Administration spying on BLM? jalan48 Aug 2015 #40

Who is ok with it? ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #43

Good, I can be a bit sarcastic at times but I didn't intend to hurt. jalan48 Aug 2015 #44

Yes indeed ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #45

Whatever dude ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #38

He's in that bubble unless someone points this out to him. L0oniX Aug 2015 #18

There have been attacks on cops, so I don't mind them looking sub.theory Aug 2015 #42

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #3

Dear Government trolls oldandhappy Aug 2015 #4

This should provide an interesting conundrum for some folks. stevenleser Aug 2015 #5

~ L0oniX Aug 2015 #17

Perfect! ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #22

Or not. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #35

Jesus, Leser, give it a rest. n/t Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #49

Wow MFrohike Aug 2015 #53

This should be illegal. People should be put on trial for this. fbc Aug 2015 #14

Hissy fit wss2001 Aug 2015 #27

Oddly enough the Tea Party joined with the ACLU d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #39

They should be watching the cops... freebrew Aug 2015 #28

Hillary Clinton Sides with NSA over Snowden Disclosures Zorra Aug 2015 #31

This is no different than the slow sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #36

Fun thread MFrohike Aug 2015 #54