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AngryAmish

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81. No. The high cost of college is the result of easy credit and careerist administrators.

Fri Aug 7, 2015, 08:00 AM

Aug 2015

The college accreditation societies make them add layers of administrators to keep accredidation. Student life is big. Athletics, politics, diversity and the new one is sustainability.

There is big money in administration. Salary and eventually a hefty pension, portable when you leave or in states luke Illinois you retire after 50, get a pension, take a job somewhere else and double dip.

But to prove you are a good administrator you need to build things, concrete things that look good on resumes. Buildings. Staff. Who looks better on paper, a gal who noticed the kids at their college were pretty normal, did a few intramural sports and ran a cheap department, or a gal who tried to solve various Crises On Campus, hired a bunch of staff, built a student life building etc. The second has a better resume. And the students don't notice the price due to easy credit.

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This is why millennials will never grow up [View all] marmar Aug 2015 OP

The boomer generation has acquiesced to the screwage of their kids. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #1

You left out the Grrrrreatest Generation there BeyondGeography Aug 2015 #3

Well our parents ending up screwing their grandchildren. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #13

Thank you marions ghost Aug 2015 #18

Because 2 of 20 years would make a massive difference. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2015 #24

Boomers didn't give us Reagan n/t BeyondGeography Aug 2015 #31

90% of boomers were old enough to vote in 1980. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2015 #35

Carter ran even with voters aged 30 or less BeyondGeography Aug 2015 #41

And running even wasn't good enough to keep Reagan out. jeff47 Aug 2015 #42

The numbers suggest otherwise BeyondGeography Aug 2015 #43

Says the guy quoting statistics showing Reagan losing by 1, tied or winning by 17. jeff47 Aug 2015 #44

So much condescension mixed with outright fail BeyondGeography Aug 2015 #45

You skipped a generation. There WAS one between Boomers and Greatest. virgogal Aug 2015 #30

My father was born in '37 BeyondGeography Aug 2015 #32

Not Sure How To Fit This ProfessorGAC Aug 2015 #58

That's a toughie BeyondGeography Aug 2015 #59

Both of My Parents Are Dead ProfessorGAC Aug 2015 #60

My mom was a moderate Republican. Until Reagan. hifiguy Aug 2015 #68

Sure, but without a major shift in boomer voting from 72 -80 reagan doesn't get elected. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #66

No Doubt ProfessorGAC Aug 2015 #79

Your parents would be considered part of the 'Silent Generation'. PotatoChip Aug 2015 #84

That's Great ProfessorGAC Aug 2015 #85

Exactly. Nt abelenkpe Aug 2015 #76

I don't think we acquiesced to it, we encouraged it. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #4

And we allow the pols to sell us the 'free tax breaks' fantasy n2doc Aug 2015 #5

hey we got ours fuck everyone else, amirite? Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #10

That does seem to be the pattern n/t n2doc Aug 2015 #14

It helped that when costs were affordable very few went yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #29

No. The high cost of college is the result of easy credit and careerist administrators. AngryAmish Aug 2015 #81

I disagree. Those things didn't help, but the big driver is the loss of inexpensive state schools n2doc Aug 2015 #82

I was being generous 'cause when I just outright declare us a generation of assholes Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #9

You're only half a generation of assholes. jeff47 Aug 2015 #25

Just making this stuff up or is there a rationale to your thinking? RadiationTherapy Aug 2015 #70

Well, here's a summary in convenient picture format from Pew. jeff47 Aug 2015 #71

Thanks! RadiationTherapy Aug 2015 #78

agreed Skittles Aug 2015 #34

We Need A 2016 Candidate To Back Student Loan Forgiveness Or..... global1 Aug 2015 #2

Dream on... marions ghost Aug 2015 #19

IIRC, he's also for student loan refinancing. jeff47 Aug 2015 #26

Obscene student loan debt is just a part of hifiguy Aug 2015 #69

Why forgive only a debt that affects mainly middle class people, while ignoring debt gollygee Aug 2015 #83

And then there are those of us mid-range boomers 2naSalit Aug 2015 #6

Yes marions ghost Aug 2015 #20

"Ensuring an economic underclass and a nation of gleaners." Bohunk68 Aug 2015 #49

Thanx marions ghost Aug 2015 #61

GenX tried to get people to pay attention to that. jeff47 Aug 2015 #27

It was aready too late by then 2naSalit Aug 2015 #47

No one generation is to blame and no one generation can fix it marions ghost Aug 2015 #62

Our fearless leaders need to make up their minds phantom power Aug 2015 #7

Our fearless leaders grab onto any statement they can as most are riding along by the seat of their RKP5637 Aug 2015 #53

If not for my DWs student loans we'd by a boat. ileus Aug 2015 #8

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #11

Student loans are not the problem, atrocious tuition fees and costs are the real problem seveneyes Aug 2015 #12

easy access to student loans is what enabled tuition and fees to spiral out of sight magical thyme Aug 2015 #21

Yeah 1939 Aug 2015 #51

As if faculty pay were the biggest component jberryhill Aug 2015 #52

Back in my college days (57-61) 1939 Aug 2015 #55

That's not how it works now jberryhill Aug 2015 #56

There you go ... Cosmocat Aug 2015 #80

"Thats what they get for majoring in theater!1!!" Etc. Etc. Oneironaut Aug 2015 #15

Right, because banks and financial institutions NEVER lay people off . . .. . HughBeaumont Aug 2015 #50

I know the OP didn't write the headline, kiva Aug 2015 #16

they didn't equate home ownership with growing up. It's one of many milestones... magical thyme Aug 2015 #22

I disagree with all three. kiva Aug 2015 #38

well I never married and don't have kids either. I bought a condo at 32; replaced it with magical thyme Aug 2015 #39

I understand I'm not the norm, kiva Aug 2015 #40

+1 PasadenaTrudy Aug 2015 #23

Hey Pasedena Trudy, in reference to your reply to another post of mine, I smirkymonkey Aug 2015 #37

Wow! PasadenaTrudy Aug 2015 #46

This is very bad news for future voter turnout. KamaAina Aug 2015 #17

Well, yeah. Why do you think turnout is so abysmal among GenX/Millennials? jeff47 Aug 2015 #28

If the residential construction industry is raising hell about this, I sure don't ever hear about it steve2470 Aug 2015 #33

I must be missing something ecstatic Aug 2015 #36

Many of us have not been able 2naSalit Aug 2015 #48

Thanks for sharing your experience. Are you ecstatic Aug 2015 #67

Perhaps... 2naSalit Aug 2015 #74

Interesting. I saw a lot of information about it back when I was looking into it ecstatic Aug 2015 #75

Thanks... 2naSalit Aug 2015 #77

Out of curiosity, how much does it cost to learn how to weld? A HERETIC I AM Aug 2015 #54

The article refers "millenials" as if the only ones which count go to college jberryhill Aug 2015 #57

Our grandson was just accepted into the Pipefitters' apprentice program shrike Aug 2015 #63

Good for him! A HERETIC I AM Aug 2015 #64

Thank you. He worked very hard for this. We're proud of him. n/t shrike Aug 2015 #72

My 26 year old has been in the Ironworkers Union Go Vols Aug 2015 #65

Tell your son I said to keep up the good work. n/t shrike Aug 2015 #73