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In reply to the discussion: I want to know if it's GMO! [View all]mythology
(9,527 posts)43. Then you would need to label everything, even the "pure" organic produce
Everything that you eat is in some way genetically modified, whether that is in a lab or in the fields (either intentionally or unintentionally). Genetic modification is why my dog doesn't try to eat my face, it's why I'm not homo habilis still discovering my opposable thumbs.
By itself genetic modifications aren't inherently bad, nor are they inherently good.
I'm linking to two really good facebook posts from Neil deGrasse Tyson on GMO and the hysteria around them:
https://www.facebook.com/neiltyson/posts/10204439688771816
Labeling: Since practically all food has been genetically altered from nature, if you wanted labeling I suppose you could demand it, but then it should be for all such foods. Perhaps there could be two different designations: GMO-Agriculture GMO-Laboratory.
Safety: Of course new foods should be tested for health risks, regardless of their origin. That's the job of the Food and Drug Administration (in the USA). Actually, humans have been testing food, even without the FDA ,since the dawn of agriculture. Whenever a berry or other ingested plant killed you, you knew not to serve it to you family.
Silk Worms: I partly mangled my comments on this. Put simply, commercial Silk Worms have been genetically modified by centuries of silk trade, such that they cannot survive in the wild. Silk Worms currently exist only to serve the textile industry. Just as Milk Cows are bred with the sole purpose of providing milk to humans. There are no herds of wild Milk Cows terrorizing the countryside.
https://www.facebook.com/neildegrassetyson/posts/10152652892786613
Furthermore, I never said GMOs were safer or more dangerous. I implied that if you think GMO-laboratory is **inherently** more dangerous to human life than GMO-agriculture you are simply wrong. They both can be bad for the environment. They both can be less healthy. They both can disrupt the local flora and fauna. But both methods wield an awesome power to improve food in every way that matters to humans: yields, appearance, vitamin content, sweetness, resistance to insects, resistance to weather extremes, and so forth.
Imagine if today, scientists showed you the Aurochs Wild Ox, and said -- "Give us time. In just a few years, we will genetically modify this wild animal, turning it into a different sub species whose sole purpose is to provide vast quantities of milk for humans to drink. They will produce 10x as much milk as did the original animal. But they will require vast grasslands to sustain. And some of you will get sick because you won't be able to digest the lactose. But no need to label this fact. People will just figure this out on their own. The rest of you will be fine. We'll call the result a Holstein Milk Cow."
What would anti GMO-laboratory people say this story? Would they embrace it or reject it? Of course, over the past 10,000 years, this is exactly what we've done to that Ox - or whatever is the agreed-upon origin of the domesticated Cow. Call it GMO-agriculture. If you reject GMOs you fundamentally reject it all.
What you're probably asking is for the labeling of food that has been modified in a lab, but there really isn't an argument as to why that is inherently more dangerous that other methods of modifications.
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No, I'm Bernie Sanders. I proposed a farm bill amendment allowing states to require labeling.
pnwmom
Aug 2015
#84
With regard to GMO labeling, Bernie and I are on exactly the same page, paragraph, and sentence.
pnwmom
Aug 2015
#92
If it's food, I want to know everything that's in it whether harmful or not
aint_no_life_nowhere
Aug 2015
#9
Third world ?Germany France UK Australia Belgium .....?.. Plenty more other DU can look at the list
Person 2713
Aug 2015
#71
That is not the GMO s of concern and there are no GMO labels on banana s in the UK etc
Person 2713
Aug 2015
#75
these are not the foods labeled in 64 countries . Glyphosate but I am guessing you already
Person 2713
Aug 2015
#79
I love how Monsanto-apologists always pretend that genetic engineering technology
pnwmom
Aug 2015
#91
Just grabbed a link but you know .i was asked for peer reviewed studies below and when I
Person 2713
Aug 2015
#68
Thank you! processed food formulas change all the time and no one complains about a label
Person 2713
Aug 2015
#28
Afraid? I guess the fomenting of abject ignorance that GMO is in anyway harmful.
longship
Aug 2015
#25
So all the other countries labeling or banning GMO s are ignorant now ? USA USA
Person 2713
Aug 2015
#29
Again the logic here . All those other countries are starving ? They are not eating ? It's the glyphosate
Person 2713
Aug 2015
#33
still won't answer why over 60 countries have laws ? yes over 60 insane countries !
Person 2713
Aug 2015
#66
Oh all those crazy universities and peer reviewed studies ,! Others here will see them that is why I
Person 2713
Aug 2015
#74
Except this was based on scientic evidence brought to parliaments across Europe not mythology
lunasun
Aug 2015
#114
List of countries with labeling GMO laws "based on predators from India or nothing"
Person 2713
Aug 2015
#45
Everything sold is already labeled, whether on the item or on the bins. This will just be added
pnwmom
Aug 2015
#85
It doesn't bother me. But if it did, I would only buy food that is labeled Non-GMO.
Hoyt
Aug 2015
#27
Mother Nature seems to know better than to attempt to cross-pollinate a tomato with a fish . . .
Petrushka
Aug 2015
#52
Let's say a fish has a gene that prevents it from getting a certain type of fungus.
Deadshot
Aug 2015
#96
Corn resistant to fungus? How is that a bad thing? Oh, dear! It's bad if you consider . . .
Petrushka
Aug 2015
#108
It's all GMO's all the way down. Far better to support your local farmer and farmer's market.
GoneOffShore
Aug 2015
#47
Why did Obama campaign on labeling GMO's (and then do a 180) ? MONEY MONEY MONEY.
djean111
Aug 2015
#55
Yes any cane is ok but if you read how they are trying to push out cane in the USA it may
Person 2713
Aug 2015
#77
I have a right to know the pedigree of the cow whose shit fertilized these non-GMO tomatoes.
Orrex
Aug 2015
#59
And you have the right to know the name of the chicken you're about to eat
GoneOffShore
Aug 2015
#112