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Volaris

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36. Billo is just trying to put Pandora back in her Box. It ain't gonna work.

Wed Aug 19, 2015, 12:38 PM

Aug 2015

This beastie they built (the teaparty) has a life of its own now, and it's hungry and needs to be fed.
Oh well, not really a 'democrat' problem, is it?

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Trump: The 14th Amendment Won’t Hold Up In Court [View all] Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 OP

they do know it has been around for nearly 150 years? niyad Aug 2015 #1

Inconvenient facts...hardly worth mentioning in the heat of bloviating. libdem4life Aug 2015 #2

now why do I keep forgetting that? niyad Aug 2015 #4

And let us get the text itself at the top of this thread. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #62

probably all graduates of lilberty law school. niyad Aug 2015 #64

Read the text Ed NJ Aug 2015 #65

Do you read that to mean that they have to stay in the country? JDPriestly Aug 2015 #69

My cousin has dual citizenship with Ireland HockeyMom Aug 2015 #82

Citizenship Ed NJ Aug 2015 #108

And if you are born here, you are a citizen pursuant to the 14th Amendment and therefore JDPriestly Aug 2015 #111

So who within our borders is not subject to the jurisdiction thereof? Midnight Writer Aug 2015 #75

My grandfather was not an American Citizen.......... mrmpa Aug 2015 #105

That's completely wrong. Jeb Bartlet Aug 2015 #76

Wong Kim Ark Ed NJ Aug 2015 #109

If you are born in the United States, you are born subject to the jurisdiction of the United States JDPriestly Aug 2015 #83

Congress has power Ed NJ Aug 2015 #110

Children born in this country come from this country. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #112

wow, what flavour would you like on your pizza? niyad Aug 2015 #85

Rofl AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #100

Please elaborate. LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #104

^^^^THIS^^^^^ NowSam Aug 2015 #92

No. Nor do they know about Dred Scott. anneboleyn Aug 2015 #70

Trump is an idiot Gothmog Aug 2015 #3

you are insulting idiots niyad Aug 2015 #5

That really says something lordsummerisle Aug 2015 #6

Billo is just trying to put Pandora back in her Box. It ain't gonna work. Volaris Aug 2015 #36

How long till they try to repeal the 12th ammendment? OffWithTheirHeads Aug 2015 #7

She left eons ago and never looked back, what a mistake I made. RKP5637 Aug 2015 #29

Under current U.S. law, the immediate family members would have to wait 21 years aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2015 #8

Hey Cons ?......... Grassy Knoll Aug 2015 #9

fuck trump spanone Aug 2015 #10

Is the Second Amendment the only one which Repubs interpret literally? LonePirate Aug 2015 #11

They dont even do that maindawg Aug 2015 #34

Yep rbrnmw Aug 2015 #45

No they don't Reter Aug 2015 #68

US v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) jberryhill Aug 2015 #12

I know right. Glassunion Aug 2015 #90

And just what does mister billionaire intend to replace it with? Warpy Aug 2015 #13

buying citship w0nderer Aug 2015 #91

Whenever a Republican says 'testing', they really mean 'inquisition' ck4829 Aug 2015 #14

So Trump thinks the Constitution is unconstitutional. Quite remarkable. Scuba Aug 2015 #15

that's what I was thinking treestar Aug 2015 #22

These morons should be required to read Politics 101 malaise Aug 2015 #24

Reading anything, or having it read to them hifiguy Aug 2015 #37

You have a point malaise Aug 2015 #40

Well, that's just stupid. You have to use *uncooked* spaghetti. n/t eggplant Aug 2015 #43

Ahh, that's the problem. hifiguy Aug 2015 #94

Is it even theoretically possible for a constitutional amendment to be unconstitutional? CanonRay Aug 2015 #42

I think that is what was done with Prohibition...IIRC my history... CTyankee Aug 2015 #47

NO, a later amendment nullified the one that established Prohibition Demeter Aug 2015 #71

And the numbnuts hang on his every word. Vinca Aug 2015 #16

Another amazing Republican attack on the Fourteenth Amendment! struggle4progress Aug 2015 #17

Trump is echoing what is apparently a new-ish RW talking point underpants Aug 2015 #26

Yeah, the language is absolutely clear. Trump has clearly not read it. tclambert Aug 2015 #50

Think he is having problems with the definition of "Person" ThoughtCriminal Aug 2015 #60

Then file a lawsuit, you sanctimonious hypocrite Android3.14 Aug 2015 #18

A Constitutional Amendment The Wizard Aug 2015 #19

+1000 sinkingfeeling Aug 2015 #23

He makes it up as he goes along. I am Trump, the greatest, trust me, you will like it. RKP5637 Aug 2015 #30

They can, however, be interpreted by the courts, Snobblevitch Aug 2015 #54

There wasn't Jeb Bartlet Aug 2015 #77

I wrote 'would rule', not 'did rule'. Snobblevitch Aug 2015 #78

Trump really thinks he's going to win with very few Latino votes ? steve2470 Aug 2015 #20

Mexicans LOVE me !!!11! JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2015 #32

I wish that Liberal groups would pay more attention to this. Baitball Blogger Aug 2015 #21

I agree with Trump! 4lbs Aug 2015 #25

I'm in favor of a Constitutional admendment prohibiting Bieber from entering the U.S. LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #52

I'm in favor of a Constitutional admendment prohibiting damn fools to run for POTUS SummerSnow Aug 2015 #88

You'd put the Republican party out of business LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #95

Trump's anchor baby test underpants Aug 2015 #27

.... glinda Aug 2015 #56

Oh my. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2015 #98

The 14th Amendment is constitutional BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE CONSTITUTION. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2015 #28

What the what? Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2015 #31

Actually, the Donald may be right Jack Rabbit Aug 2015 #33

Not so Supreme The Wizard Aug 2015 #99

But SCOTUS conservatives know that overturning 14th amendment might overturn Citizen's United! cascadiance Aug 2015 #101

Oh, so now this asshole is a constitutional scholar? I am so goddamned sick and tired of this POS. catbyte Aug 2015 #35

I keep waiting for him to go on Fox News and Mr.Bill Aug 2015 #57

God, how awesome would that be?!? hueymahl Aug 2015 #66

Sadly, he's fallen for his own bullshit and thinks he actually has a shot at becoming POTUS. catbyte Aug 2015 #87

Is this the "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" argument again? Xithras Aug 2015 #38

Republicans stand for NOTHING.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #39

so now trump is a constitutional lawyer?....amazing spanone Aug 2015 #41

why not repeal the "legal slavery" part of the 13th amendment Donald Trump? or do republicans Sunlei Aug 2015 #44

To repeat something I posted yesterday Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2015 #46

has to be a troll 0rganism Aug 2015 #48

He really is performance art and nothing more Botany Aug 2015 #49

Donald Chump talking bs as usual. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #51

I'm rich. I know very good lawyers. I can test it in court. Eugene Aug 2015 #53

I am for repealing the 14th if it goes back Retroactively Six Generations. Katashi_itto Aug 2015 #55

Thanks for that opinion, justice trump. (nt) Paladin Aug 2015 #58

Many lawyers... rpannier Aug 2015 #59

What a scumbag. blackspade Aug 2015 #61

These "many lawyers" come from the same firm . . . MrModerate Aug 2015 #63

I don't think he's saying that this constitutional amendment is unconstitutional.... Moonwalk Aug 2015 #67

That's hilarious! n/t Gore1FL Aug 2015 #72

Well, he's saying the current legal interpretation of it will not stand up in court Recursion Aug 2015 #73

Maybe then we can have a court case to overturn other court decisions based on 14th amendment cascadiance Aug 2015 #102

I've solved it Kennah Aug 2015 #74

And where did Trump get his law degree? AndreaCG Aug 2015 #79

If this goes DonCoquixote Aug 2015 #80

So by Trump's reasoning{sic}, Colin Powel isn't a citizen. n/t sarge43 Aug 2015 #81

An old lawyer perspective MosheFeingold Aug 2015 #84

As I said in my previous post in this thread, Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2015 #106

OK, I read it MosheFeingold Aug 2015 #107

Cable news gives Trump airtime so he'll spew something outrageous... Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #86

I've been hearing about a few "anchor" babies this morning: Vinca Aug 2015 #89

It all sounds better in the original German Hekate Aug 2015 #93

"Many lawyers" are stupefyingly stupid in thinking any court can overturn an amendment! WinkyDink Aug 2015 #96

hey, Donald--you're s'posed to DRINK the tea, not SMOKE it!! lastlib Aug 2015 #97

If the law could rob some of citizenship because of illegal parents, what of illegal grandparents? Freelancer Aug 2015 #103