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Moonwalk

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67. I don't think he's saying that this constitutional amendment is unconstitutional....
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 08:56 PM
Aug 2015

...he's boasting that it won't cover anchor babies. He thinks that SOMEHOW the Supreme Court would agree that the 14th Amendment doesn't apply to anchor babies. Unfortunately for him, whatever the 14th intent (i.e. to give freed slaves citizenship), the courts have to judge on what the amendment *says* and it says that if one is BORN in the U.S., then one is a U.S. citizen. It doesn't stipulate that one's parents must be citizens legal or otherwise.

However, Trump is nothing if not world class scam artist, and he's doing a very good job of promising the moon to the gullible. "Vote for me," he says, "i know how to get around these pesky laws that are keeping those you hate in your country."

But I'm doubtful that he really wants to be president, especially if it means he might have to put-up or shut-up. I think he just wants to make some really good deals with the Republicans in exchange for urging his supporters to vote for the GOP nominee. After all, given their rich backers and control of congress, the GOP could pay out a lot to him for his supporters.

Till then, he'll do his best to convince right-wingers he can give them everything and anything, so that he ends up with a huge bargaining chip when nomination time rolls around.

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they do know it has been around for nearly 150 years? niyad Aug 2015 #1
Inconvenient facts...hardly worth mentioning in the heat of bloviating. libdem4life Aug 2015 #2
now why do I keep forgetting that? niyad Aug 2015 #4
And let us get the text itself at the top of this thread. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #62
probably all graduates of lilberty law school. niyad Aug 2015 #64
Read the text Ed NJ Aug 2015 #65
Do you read that to mean that they have to stay in the country? JDPriestly Aug 2015 #69
My cousin has dual citizenship with Ireland HockeyMom Aug 2015 #82
Citizenship Ed NJ Aug 2015 #108
And if you are born here, you are a citizen pursuant to the 14th Amendment and therefore JDPriestly Aug 2015 #111
So who within our borders is not subject to the jurisdiction thereof? Midnight Writer Aug 2015 #75
My grandfather was not an American Citizen.......... mrmpa Aug 2015 #105
That's completely wrong. Jeb Bartlet Aug 2015 #76
Wong Kim Ark Ed NJ Aug 2015 #109
If you are born in the United States, you are born subject to the jurisdiction of the United States JDPriestly Aug 2015 #83
Congress has power Ed NJ Aug 2015 #110
Children born in this country come from this country. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #112
wow, what flavour would you like on your pizza? niyad Aug 2015 #85
Rofl AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #100
Please elaborate. LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #104
^^^^THIS^^^^^ NowSam Aug 2015 #92
No. Nor do they know about Dred Scott. anneboleyn Aug 2015 #70
Trump is an idiot Gothmog Aug 2015 #3
you are insulting idiots niyad Aug 2015 #5
That really says something lordsummerisle Aug 2015 #6
Billo is just trying to put Pandora back in her Box. It ain't gonna work. Volaris Aug 2015 #36
How long till they try to repeal the 12th ammendment? OffWithTheirHeads Aug 2015 #7
She left eons ago and never looked back, what a mistake I made. RKP5637 Aug 2015 #29
Under current U.S. law, the immediate family members would have to wait 21 years aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2015 #8
Hey Cons ?......... Grassy Knoll Aug 2015 #9
fuck trump spanone Aug 2015 #10
Is the Second Amendment the only one which Repubs interpret literally? LonePirate Aug 2015 #11
They dont even do that maindawg Aug 2015 #34
Yep rbrnmw Aug 2015 #45
No they don't Reter Aug 2015 #68
US v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) jberryhill Aug 2015 #12
I know right. Glassunion Aug 2015 #90
And just what does mister billionaire intend to replace it with? Warpy Aug 2015 #13
buying citship w0nderer Aug 2015 #91
Whenever a Republican says 'testing', they really mean 'inquisition' ck4829 Aug 2015 #14
So Trump thinks the Constitution is unconstitutional. Quite remarkable. Scuba Aug 2015 #15
that's what I was thinking treestar Aug 2015 #22
These morons should be required to read Politics 101 malaise Aug 2015 #24
Reading anything, or having it read to them hifiguy Aug 2015 #37
You have a point malaise Aug 2015 #40
Well, that's just stupid. You have to use *uncooked* spaghetti. n/t eggplant Aug 2015 #43
Ahh, that's the problem. hifiguy Aug 2015 #94
Is it even theoretically possible for a constitutional amendment to be unconstitutional? CanonRay Aug 2015 #42
I think that is what was done with Prohibition...IIRC my history... CTyankee Aug 2015 #47
NO, a later amendment nullified the one that established Prohibition Demeter Aug 2015 #71
And the numbnuts hang on his every word. Vinca Aug 2015 #16
Another amazing Republican attack on the Fourteenth Amendment! struggle4progress Aug 2015 #17
Trump is echoing what is apparently a new-ish RW talking point underpants Aug 2015 #26
Yeah, the language is absolutely clear. Trump has clearly not read it. tclambert Aug 2015 #50
Think he is having problems with the definition of "Person" ThoughtCriminal Aug 2015 #60
Then file a lawsuit, you sanctimonious hypocrite Android3.14 Aug 2015 #18
A Constitutional Amendment The Wizard Aug 2015 #19
+1000 sinkingfeeling Aug 2015 #23
He makes it up as he goes along. I am Trump, the greatest, trust me, you will like it. RKP5637 Aug 2015 #30
They can, however, be interpreted by the courts, Snobblevitch Aug 2015 #54
There wasn't Jeb Bartlet Aug 2015 #77
I wrote 'would rule', not 'did rule'. Snobblevitch Aug 2015 #78
Trump really thinks he's going to win with very few Latino votes ? steve2470 Aug 2015 #20
Mexicans LOVE me !!!11! JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2015 #32
I wish that Liberal groups would pay more attention to this. Baitball Blogger Aug 2015 #21
I agree with Trump! 4lbs Aug 2015 #25
I'm in favor of a Constitutional admendment prohibiting Bieber from entering the U.S. LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #52
I'm in favor of a Constitutional admendment prohibiting damn fools to run for POTUS SummerSnow Aug 2015 #88
You'd put the Republican party out of business LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #95
Trump's anchor baby test underpants Aug 2015 #27
.... glinda Aug 2015 #56
Oh my. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2015 #98
The 14th Amendment is constitutional BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE CONSTITUTION. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2015 #28
What the what? Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2015 #31
Actually, the Donald may be right Jack Rabbit Aug 2015 #33
Not so Supreme The Wizard Aug 2015 #99
But SCOTUS conservatives know that overturning 14th amendment might overturn Citizen's United! cascadiance Aug 2015 #101
Oh, so now this asshole is a constitutional scholar? I am so goddamned sick and tired of this POS. catbyte Aug 2015 #35
I keep waiting for him to go on Fox News and Mr.Bill Aug 2015 #57
God, how awesome would that be?!? hueymahl Aug 2015 #66
Sadly, he's fallen for his own bullshit and thinks he actually has a shot at becoming POTUS. catbyte Aug 2015 #87
Is this the "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" argument again? Xithras Aug 2015 #38
Republicans stand for NOTHING.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #39
so now trump is a constitutional lawyer?....amazing spanone Aug 2015 #41
why not repeal the "legal slavery" part of the 13th amendment Donald Trump? or do republicans Sunlei Aug 2015 #44
To repeat something I posted yesterday Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2015 #46
has to be a troll 0rganism Aug 2015 #48
He really is performance art and nothing more Botany Aug 2015 #49
Donald Chump talking bs as usual. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #51
I'm rich. I know very good lawyers. I can test it in court. Eugene Aug 2015 #53
I am for repealing the 14th if it goes back Retroactively Six Generations. Katashi_itto Aug 2015 #55
Thanks for that opinion, justice trump. (nt) Paladin Aug 2015 #58
Many lawyers... rpannier Aug 2015 #59
What a scumbag. blackspade Aug 2015 #61
These "many lawyers" come from the same firm . . . MrModerate Aug 2015 #63
I don't think he's saying that this constitutional amendment is unconstitutional.... Moonwalk Aug 2015 #67
That's hilarious! n/t Gore1FL Aug 2015 #72
Well, he's saying the current legal interpretation of it will not stand up in court Recursion Aug 2015 #73
Maybe then we can have a court case to overturn other court decisions based on 14th amendment cascadiance Aug 2015 #102
I've solved it Kennah Aug 2015 #74
And where did Trump get his law degree? AndreaCG Aug 2015 #79
If this goes DonCoquixote Aug 2015 #80
So by Trump's reasoning{sic}, Colin Powel isn't a citizen. n/t sarge43 Aug 2015 #81
An old lawyer perspective MosheFeingold Aug 2015 #84
As I said in my previous post in this thread, Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2015 #106
OK, I read it MosheFeingold Aug 2015 #107
Cable news gives Trump airtime so he'll spew something outrageous... Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #86
I've been hearing about a few "anchor" babies this morning: Vinca Aug 2015 #89
It all sounds better in the original German Hekate Aug 2015 #93
"Many lawyers" are stupefyingly stupid in thinking any court can overturn an amendment! WinkyDink Aug 2015 #96
hey, Donald--you're s'posed to DRINK the tea, not SMOKE it!! lastlib Aug 2015 #97
If the law could rob some of citizenship because of illegal parents, what of illegal grandparents? Freelancer Aug 2015 #103
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