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In reply to the discussion: Trump: The 14th Amendment Won’t Hold Up In Court [View all]JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)at the time born and thereafter.
If Trump wants to change the law on our citizenship, he has to change our Constitution.
If you are born within the United States, you are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
And if your parents obtain a certificate of birth abroad, they are placing you under the jurisdiction of the US government. The 14th Amendment does not define who is NOT a citizen of the US. It merely states that if you are born or naturalized in the US (and therefore subject to the jurisdiction of the US -- which is understood if at the time of your birth you are within the US -- then you are a citizen. It does not even state that you have to be born within the US to be a citizen.
If you do not have US citizenship, but you drive over the speed limit while in the US, you soon learn that you are under the jurisdiction of US law enforcement and the jurisdiction of the state in which you have exceeded the speed limit.
It's really very clear. You cannot be born within the US and not be subject to the jurisdiction of the US unless your parents are in the diplomatic corps, I suppose, and you have some kind of diplomatic immunity. Even then???