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RainDog

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18. it is totally disingenuous to compare cannabis to huffing gasoline
Mon Dec 26, 2011, 01:43 AM
Dec 2011

and, since we do have medical users, such as Irv Rosenfeld, who have demonstrated no incompetency while using cannabis every day of his life for the last 22 years, I would have to take issue with your statement.

Irv smokes 300 joints a month and has for 22 years. Sometimes he smokes 12 joints a day. He is a stockbroker who has not had averse effects from his cannabis use.

Instead, he has not developed any more tumors since his cannabis use.

http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle-old/363/irv.shtml

Four of the seven official patients participated in the "Chronic Cannabis Use in the Compassionate Investigational New Drug Program Study" conducted by Dr. Ethan Russo in Missoula, Montana, that year. That study showed "very few adverse effects in the patients," said Russo in an interview last year. None showed signs of brain damage, immune system problems or hormone problems, Russo said. "The truth is cannabis is very effective for a wide variety of medical conditions including pain, spasms, multiple sclerosis and glaucoma," said Russo, who has been practicing for 20 years. "Irv's functioning has gotten better over time, not worse, as what you might expect in someone with his condition."

"Although Irv has had to smoke this stuff all these years, his lungs are just fine, or at least they were through 2001, when we studied him in Missoula" said Al Byrne of Patients Out of Time (http://www.medicalcannabis.org), a group with which Rosenfeld has worked for years and on whose board of directors he currently sits. "And the government propaganda mill says that if you smoke too much too long your brain shrivels up. All you have to do is look at Irv and the work he does and you can see that's bullshit," he told DRCNet. "These supposed adverse impacts of marijuana use are a longstanding claim of the government," said Byrne. "One of the reasons we formed Patients Out of Time in 1995 was to refute that government propaganda, one point at a time. That's why we entered into the Missoula study as well."


There is a link to a video in the Drug Policy Forum to a talk about cannabis studies by Ethan Russo and a link to Irv Rosenfeld's testimony in Michigan during hearings on mmj in the post "How Marijuana Became Legal," also in the Drug Policy Forum.

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I saw that too and my reaction was exactly the same. Xicano Dec 2011 #1
Only a doctor can tell you how to live. cthulu2016 Dec 2011 #2
From my first taste fifty years ago, WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2011 #3
Woodward and Bernstein suggest that we follow the money Kennah Dec 2011 #4
Interesting that all of his staff use and he and his brother use and MindMover Dec 2011 #5
I have smoked pot on an almost daily basis for over 35 years. roody Dec 2011 #6
It is a myth. nt Mojorabbit Dec 2011 #7
Your experience is definitely your own as is everyone who uses substances of any kind..... MindMover Dec 2011 #10
Gosh That's an interesting site you have there. hootinholler Dec 2011 #14
About that NIH funding... boppers Dec 2011 #19
thank you for the link....... MindMover Dec 2011 #32
I think the main problem MMJ discussions have are factual distortions. boppers Dec 2011 #35
Maybe because the goals of NIH are not what people think they are.....or MindMover Dec 2011 #39
I know that you read every link and substantive study on marijuana on the link I provided.....in 1hr MindMover Dec 2011 #21
let's look at the stats for those who go into treatment for cannabis RainDog Dec 2011 #24
I totally agree with your summation about treatment for marijuana and avoidance of jail time...... MindMover Dec 2011 #26
your link notes cannabis is no more addictive than caffeine RainDog Dec 2011 #20
oh yea boatloads of money, the average hourly wage is around 11 bucks....for drug counseling.... MindMover Dec 2011 #23
I'm not talking about you RainDog Dec 2011 #27
Yes, certain people are making a shitload of money off of prohibition.... MindMover Dec 2011 #29
I suppose I don't quite understand this statement, then RainDog Dec 2011 #33
I have already explained myself in other replies..... MindMover Dec 2011 #37
Indeed!! CanSocDem Dec 2011 #42
There is no habituation effect to THC. GliderGuider Dec 2011 #8
The stuff you smoked in Nam had a THC content of 7-8%...... MindMover Dec 2011 #11
Users quickly learn to titrate for the desired dose. GliderGuider Dec 2011 #12
I am not arguing your point of recreational substance use for various individual reasons..... MindMover Dec 2011 #13
OK, we have no major disagreements GliderGuider Dec 2011 #15
My experience has been that I have seen many clients/patients that have some minor MindMover Dec 2011 #41
it is totally disingenuous to compare cannabis to huffing gasoline RainDog Dec 2011 #18
Comparing substances is what I do to learn about them so that I can be more MindMover Dec 2011 #25
Because the govt doesn't want to study those who are regular users RainDog Dec 2011 #28
Thank you for these links, I have some good reading to do over these holidays..... MindMover Dec 2011 #31
there were 2700 separate studies published in 2009 RainDog Dec 2011 #34
I agree with everything you wrote with this exception..... MindMover Dec 2011 #36
something that is processed would qualify as a drug, imo RainDog Dec 2011 #40
a study of patients with MS found no increase in dosage - i.e. no tolerance RainDog Dec 2011 #16
When you can't get high anymore, it's time to take a break. DCKit Dec 2011 #30
I didn't watch this series but, it is fredamae Dec 2011 #9
didn't see this RainDog Dec 2011 #17
Total legalization of it would destroy his business model. boppers Dec 2011 #22
Money trumps doing the right thing - yet again - as always under capitalism slay Dec 2011 #38
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