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RainDog

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20. your link notes cannabis is no more addictive than caffeine

Mon Dec 26, 2011, 01:55 AM

Dec 2011

which is, btw, a legal substance in our society (tho, yes, back in the 1600s people were put in jail for coffee, just as they are for cannabis now.)

no one considers a caffeine addiction something worthy of a treatment program. why? because, if someone finds he or she is drinking too much coffee, she or he can simply stop without the need for medical supervision. your link indicates the same thing about cannabis use - some people experience mild discomfort that goes away in 2 days.

no one tries to equate caffeine use with huffing gasoline, either, because to do so would indicate someone who has no sense of proportion about the dangers of one substance vs. another.

that person would look like a propagandist using lies to scare people.

however, the drug courts and treatment programs are making a shitload of money by pretending that cannabis is something dangerous, rather than a substance that most people use with no adverse effects at all.

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Gosh That's an interesting site you have there. hootinholler Dec 2011 #14

About that NIH funding... boppers Dec 2011 #19

thank you for the link....... MindMover Dec 2011 #32

I think the main problem MMJ discussions have are factual distortions. boppers Dec 2011 #35

Maybe because the goals of NIH are not what people think they are.....or MindMover Dec 2011 #39

I know that you read every link and substantive study on marijuana on the link I provided.....in 1hr MindMover Dec 2011 #21

let's look at the stats for those who go into treatment for cannabis RainDog Dec 2011 #24

I totally agree with your summation about treatment for marijuana and avoidance of jail time...... MindMover Dec 2011 #26

your link notes cannabis is no more addictive than caffeine RainDog Dec 2011 #20

oh yea boatloads of money, the average hourly wage is around 11 bucks....for drug counseling.... MindMover Dec 2011 #23

I'm not talking about you RainDog Dec 2011 #27

Yes, certain people are making a shitload of money off of prohibition.... MindMover Dec 2011 #29

I suppose I don't quite understand this statement, then RainDog Dec 2011 #33

I have already explained myself in other replies..... MindMover Dec 2011 #37

Indeed!! CanSocDem Dec 2011 #42

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The stuff you smoked in Nam had a THC content of 7-8%...... MindMover Dec 2011 #11

Users quickly learn to titrate for the desired dose. GliderGuider Dec 2011 #12

I am not arguing your point of recreational substance use for various individual reasons..... MindMover Dec 2011 #13

OK, we have no major disagreements GliderGuider Dec 2011 #15

My experience has been that I have seen many clients/patients that have some minor MindMover Dec 2011 #41

it is totally disingenuous to compare cannabis to huffing gasoline RainDog Dec 2011 #18

Comparing substances is what I do to learn about them so that I can be more MindMover Dec 2011 #25

Because the govt doesn't want to study those who are regular users RainDog Dec 2011 #28

Thank you for these links, I have some good reading to do over these holidays..... MindMover Dec 2011 #31

there were 2700 separate studies published in 2009 RainDog Dec 2011 #34

I agree with everything you wrote with this exception..... MindMover Dec 2011 #36

something that is processed would qualify as a drug, imo RainDog Dec 2011 #40

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