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106. what I am talking about is NOT the same bill that the article talks about

Sat Sep 12, 2015, 03:18 PM

Sep 2015

just the quote I snipped mentions the previous negotiations. It was the 'deal' in 2010 that I was talking about.

The Bush tax cuts were set to expire in December 2010. The House and Senate were still, at that time in Democratic control.

Biden was one of the people arguing for negotiation, Biden was the one who came up with the two year extension of the Bush tax cuts.

The Bush tax cuts were about to die, which would have been a good thing, in my opinion, yet Biden, for some reason, was motivated to keep them alive.

Maybe you do not feel betrayed that most of the Bush tax cuts are now permanent - but you should. Most people do not, because Obama (and company) have portrayed it as a victory, just like they portrayed the extension as a victory.

Permanent tax cuts that favor the rich - that is NOT any kind of victory in my eyes, and that is what Biden was instrumental in foisting on us.

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