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40. That's why you oppose this? A pedantic concern over the definition of "free"

Reply to msongs (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 05:23 PM

Oct 2015

How about we call it fully subsidized tuition?

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Students Across the Nation are Planning Something Unprecedented to End Student Debt Forever [View all] dixiegrrrrl Oct 2015 OP

K&R! marym625 Oct 2015 #1

+1000 smirkymonkey Oct 2015 #2

Bernie deserves a lot of credit for addressing this national issue loudly and libdem4life Oct 2015 #3

I am with you, kids. I wish I could actually be there. :D roguevalley Oct 2015 #24

Sounds like a good one to me.^^^ Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #4

I'd want to see their plans for paying for this mythology Oct 2015 #5

The money is there and more is available mountain grammy Oct 2015 #17

+100%! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #92

Cancel the F-35 gratuitous Oct 2015 #21

+ 1 trillion. (n/t) klook Oct 2015 #67

PDFS NJCher Oct 2015 #73

+1! Killing people for profit. Creating a new and never ending supply of enemies. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #94

+1 daleanime Oct 2015 #75

+100%! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #93

Here you go: Live and Learn Oct 2015 #71

^^^ This right fucking here! ^^^ MAKE WALL STREET FUCKING PAY FOR IT! They ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #76

Bring the Pentagon home from 135 countries around the world. Octafish Oct 2015 #99

Getting Corporations off of welfare is a start d_legendary1 Oct 2015 #129

Educating our young is arguably the most important responsibility a society holds. Xithras Oct 2015 #135

Cancellation of all student debt. blue neen Oct 2015 #6

Sign me up! Beartracks Oct 2015 #8

right there with you handmade34 Oct 2015 #74

I was finally able to start repaying under the income-based plan... Beartracks Oct 2015 #84

All good and well angrychair Oct 2015 #10

OMG! Can't even conceive of how much your debt must be. Frightening. WillowTree Oct 2015 #18

Less than some angrychair Oct 2015 #48

Can you do Income-Based Repayment? Beartracks Oct 2015 #88

I appreciate the thought angrychair Oct 2015 #89

The taxpayer made the majority of student loans outstanding. Who's going to pay for it? Yo_Mama Oct 2015 #12

What does come to, 1 less war to pay for. That would be hard to handle. On one hand we can a war LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #20

and just how much of that debt is principle and how much is accrued interest? azurnoir Oct 2015 #25

I agree about the resentment. The bigger problem is the creditors. Jim Lane Oct 2015 #13

No problem at all angrychair Oct 2015 #87

You say it's not a problem from the point of view of the overall economy, but.... Jim Lane Oct 2015 #90

Except that's not how debts from a fractional reserve bank work Recursion Oct 2015 #91

I agree about the overall money supply but not about the individual bank Jim Lane Oct 2015 #103

Why are you subtracting the $8k from the $10k? Recursion Oct 2015 #104

I'm applying what I remember of double-entry bookkeeping. Jim Lane Oct 2015 #122

But fractional reserve is specifically not double-entry; that's the whole point. Recursion Oct 2015 #123

I don't see any inconsistency Jim Lane Oct 2015 #128

Looking back, I wrote that really badly. Recursion Oct 2015 #131

Cash makes this complicated, so imagine a fully-electronic loan origination Recursion Oct 2015 #137

I was thinking that cash made it simpler Jim Lane Oct 2015 #138

Actually the taxpayers lent virtually all the money, and it's borrowed money. Yo_Mama Oct 2015 #127

Any money that "flows thu the system" is grabbed by the 1% and never trickles down. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2015 #124

I paid my loans abelenkpe Oct 2015 #16

Ditto Dems2002 Oct 2015 #19

If it's an insane burden skepticscott Oct 2015 #29

Because it's a racket of a system Heddi Oct 2015 #59

It sounds like it was not an "insane" burden for you skepticscott Oct 2015 #66

Same here. Hissyspit Oct 2015 #108

I paid off my student debt -- I'm not resentful at all Heddi Oct 2015 #57

My husband and I are retired now. We live on a fixed income. blue neen Oct 2015 #64

what a reasonable human being (not snark) ish of the hammer Oct 2015 #68

... handmade34 Oct 2015 #81

Huge +1! You are an example to us all. Seriously. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #96

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #72

I also handmade34 Oct 2015 #77

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Unfortunately they will just have to feel their resentment. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #95

That's a false obstacle Orrex Oct 2015 #100

That's no excuse for not doing it. Hissyspit Oct 2015 #105

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #7

Good luck, kids! 1monster Oct 2015 #9

I guess I should never have paid off mine then. leftofcool Oct 2015 #11

"I suffered so everyone else should as well!" AZ Progressive Oct 2015 #27

No, I am saying I pay my bills including my student loans and I am proud I did. leftofcool Oct 2015 #53

So let's see if we can guess your point. You paid off your debt therefore all students should have rhett o rick Oct 2015 #34

Your Republican imitation is teh awesome! nt bunnies Oct 2015 #42

Oh, for Christ sake's... Hissyspit Oct 2015 #109

At the risk of sounding SheilaT Oct 2015 #14

You're not being callous, you're being sensible. skepticscott Oct 2015 #30

It's always easy to blame the victims. Those people that use the payday loans should be rhett o rick Oct 2015 #35

Who are the "victims" here? skepticscott Oct 2015 #44

That isn't a very empathetic feeling. We as a society have some responsibility to help rhett o rick Oct 2015 #58

I'm sympathetic to people skepticscott Oct 2015 #116

Do you think payday loan companies should exist? I don't. At one time it was against rhett o rick Oct 2015 #133

Very black and white for a skeptic like yourself. Tafiti Oct 2015 #115

Does that make those people "victims"? skepticscott Oct 2015 #117

yes because it is soooo easy restorefreedom Oct 2015 #43

And your point is what? skepticscott Oct 2015 #46

my point is that once again, restorefreedom Oct 2015 #47

Is there any greed skepticscott Oct 2015 #52

there certainly are some restorefreedom Oct 2015 #63

Oh, please... Hissyspit Oct 2015 #106

That all you have? skepticscott Oct 2015 #120

Not all I have. Hissyspit Oct 2015 #121

Schools begin with the assumption that you will take on debt Blasphemer Oct 2015 #111

dear ignorant students- nothing is "free" - somebody has to pay for your "free" schooling nt msongs Oct 2015 #15

Doesn't sound like an empathetic Democrat. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #36

That's why you oppose this? A pedantic concern over the definition of "free" Taitertots Oct 2015 #40

How about we make college affordable? leftofcool Oct 2015 #54

Affordable for many college students is cheaper than a box of ramen Taitertots Oct 2015 #60

What, afraid the "undeserving masses" might achieve some parity? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #85

Funny angrychair Oct 2015 #49

Funny... Other countries have figured out how to do it. Hissyspit Oct 2015 #107

Student loans were never an issue when people could get good jobs to pay them off. jtuck004 Oct 2015 #22

They should vote against Clinton that would ship more jobs overseas. We need jobs for rhett o rick Oct 2015 #37

oh, the good old days Taitertots Oct 2015 #41

One of the biggest problems of student loans zalinda Oct 2015 #23

I borrowed less than $50k for grad school, I now owe over $135k. smirkymonkey Oct 2015 #33

I remember when the mob made loans like that, now the banks do. And I am disappointed that posters rhett o rick Oct 2015 #38

It is society's obligation to give adequate education to its citizens AZ Progressive Oct 2015 #26

Sorry, but you don't have to be a "genius" skepticscott Oct 2015 #32

Funny angrychair Oct 2015 #50

As I already pointed out skepticscott Oct 2015 #55

Actually htey want education to cease being ridiculously expensive Scootaloo Oct 2015 #86

No it isn't skepticscott Oct 2015 #98

An educated populace is a public good. We used to know that. Now we are eating our tblue37 Oct 2015 #69

... handmade34 Oct 2015 #78

Huge +1! Yes, we used to know that. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #97

That is just basic. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #28

#2 would save us 500 bucks a month. ileus Oct 2015 #31

Excellent! Dems to Win Oct 2015 #39

Higher education needs to be either free or low-cost. The bankers are already cash-bloated. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #45

It is obvious to me that we need a new model upaloopa Oct 2015 #51

When I started college ryan_cats Oct 2015 #56

Culture is not worthless. N/T Utopian Leftist Oct 2015 #61

I agree which is why I chose the minor I did. ryan_cats Oct 2015 #82

When I started college, they had special programs to help women get an education. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2015 #62

Is an engineering degree now worthless? ryan_cats Oct 2015 #83

MIT is a private school. SheilaT Oct 2015 #112

If they cancel student debt my brother wants his money back also. nt Logical Oct 2015 #65

No one believes in the broken two party system. Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #70

They also need a MAXIMUM wage for. College administrators tularetom Oct 2015 #79

Or millions for coaches progressoid Oct 2015 #114

To be fair, boosters usually wind up footing the bill hifiguy Oct 2015 #125

Better money spent than on wars and destruction. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2015 #101

Students at NYU were protesting recently... meaculpa2011 Oct 2015 #102

This just makes sense. U of M Dem Oct 2015 #110

This is one of the most egregious parts of the system Blasphemer Oct 2015 #118

I am hoping right along with you. U of M Dem Oct 2015 #132

I got my AA, my BA and my Master's in Social Work dixiegrrrrl Oct 2015 #126

I hear you! U of M Dem Oct 2015 #130

Sad to Say allinthegame Oct 2015 #113

This is great but do they realize that it damned cold in a lot jwirr Oct 2015 #119

funded by extra tax on Banking execs and Hedge fund managers - commutation tax Bill USA Oct 2015 #134

How would free tuition be paid MichMan Oct 2015 #136