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Mira

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3. I neither know about guns or cars,

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 12:45 AM

Oct 2015

not how many HP my Ford Ranger or my Ford Fiesta have. But I don't think either can do willful taking of lives the way assault rifles can.

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We've maybe not seen it simplified like this: Comparing Car purchases and Gun Purchases [View all] Mira Oct 2015 OP

Im fine with this Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #1

And mandate that no vehicle be capable of going faster than the national speed limit, of course. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #2

And mandate that no vehicle be capable of going faster than the national speed limit, of course. The CCC Oct 2015 #26

Now now... Don't be unreasonable... TipTok Oct 2015 #106

Lawbreakers include those driving 71 mph in zones marked ''70.'' Octafish Oct 2015 #58

A-yup. Lots of people willing to legislate when it won't affect them. n/t Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #59

It would leave about 1-percent of the country eligible for guns. Octafish Oct 2015 #68

Evidence? demwing Oct 2015 #102

Drive down the highway at the posted speed limit and count cars. Octafish Oct 2015 #110

Is that what you're responding to? My Bad demwing Oct 2015 #111

I was. I consider those who violate the speed laws to be lawbreakers. Octafish Oct 2015 #116

Some, not all. demwing Oct 2015 #118

I neither know about guns or cars, Mira Oct 2015 #3

But if it saves just one life, isn't it worth it? n/t Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #5

Yet, vehicles are very proficient at taking thousands of lives a year, GGJohn Oct 2015 #6

A corvette is deaigned for speed Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #7

When you say "our speed limit", to whom are you referring? n/t A HERETIC I AM Oct 2015 #29

Perfectly legal to speed at the drag strip. Plus there are instances, albeit rare ones, where MillennialDem Oct 2015 #79

Actually, snarky response aside, I think you're wrong. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #8

When is the last time a truck barreled down a boardwalk at 80 mph... Human101948 Oct 2015 #36

Trucks for EVERYONE demwing Oct 2015 #103

When has an assault rifle EVER *willfully* taken a life on its own?? Just ONE LINK where one of Ghost in the Machine Oct 2015 #17

Car accidents are why there is insurance. KittyWampus Oct 2015 #69

Maybe you didn't read the exact wording that I responded to.. here they are... Ghost in the Machine Oct 2015 #86

I'll give up my 240HP **4 CYLINDER** built out Acura Integra when they pry my cold, dead hands Ghost in the Machine Oct 2015 #16

I see what you did there Skittles Oct 2015 #52

It's a gift... or a curse... I haven't decided yet, but sometimes these things just pop in my head Ghost in the Machine Oct 2015 #87

There are speed limit laws. That takes care of that. cui bono Oct 2015 #18

The end result might be more people dying from 300 HP then 150...so good point! Rex Oct 2015 #61

Fine with me, I won't drive anything built after the early 2000s ever. MillennialDem Oct 2015 #78

Wanna buy my restored 66 Chevelle Super Sport? GGJohn Oct 2015 #90

Actually I don't like 60s/70s cars. I like late 80s - early 2000s cars. And as a bonus, my 383 MillennialDem Oct 2015 #98

Nice!!!!! GGJohn Oct 2015 #108

No we shouldn't Reter Oct 2015 #113

Here's a clue as to why it's different, GGJohn Oct 2015 #4

Doesn't matter. Requiring insurance doesn't take away the right to bear arms. cui bono Oct 2015 #20

Requiring insurance will also accomplish little, if anything. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #38

Here's some more clues ... Martin Eden Oct 2015 #35

If no CC then I agree, but i think CC holders need some instruction. The 2 idiots.... Logical Oct 2015 #117

Actually, I do agree that CC needs classroom and practical training, GGJohn Oct 2015 #120

Hey! We agree on something! Probably more than not! :-) Logical Oct 2015 #121

Here, GGJohn Oct 2015 #122

I agree.... Logical Oct 2015 #123

Looking over the responses Mira Oct 2015 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author GGJohn Oct 2015 #10

Guns aren't the issue. We're waiting on the Gun Control side to catch on. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #11

Posting a graphic in a discussion group usually results in discussion of said graphic friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #12

Insurance is the way to go. cui bono Oct 2015 #19

It would be cheap, not cover criminal acts (no insurance does), and probably provided by the NRA... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #39

people who cannot admit there is a problem, there's no point even talking to them Skittles Oct 2015 #23

People who cannot admit that some problems defy easy solutions....... pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #28

The problem is: jack_krass Oct 2015 #77

EXHIBIT NUMBER 847593 Skittles Oct 2015 #83

Where did you get your degree in telepsychology? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #93

This simplification has been seen countless times. It is not a valid comparison. Snobblevitch Oct 2015 #13

Pointing out that one can drive pretty much anywhere after getting a license, nor... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #14

You can'rt drive inside any building other than a parking garage. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #104

True, but you still get to drive in all fifty states friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #114

I'd make that trade. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #119

Why? Mira Oct 2015 #15

It compares apples and oranges. NutmegYankee Oct 2015 #31

You may not like some of the results. Straw Man Oct 2015 #32

Controllers forget that the NRA is a major insuror of gun owners, and would love the new business friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #40

Very simple really angrychair Oct 2015 #21

"not once has a private citizen CC gun owner...stopped or even attempted to stop...a killer" Wrong: friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #44

Now that is a plan. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #22

The NRA is one of the largest, if not *the* largest, underwriters of gun insurance in the US... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #42

Exactly. nt cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #46

What problem will mandatory insurance solve? hack89 Oct 2015 #43

We should require all owners of guns to have insurance to cover any losses, whether due JDPriestly Oct 2015 #55

No insurance will pay for criminal acts, nor will it pay for the actions of third parties... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #56

That is why I point out that this "insurance" would be more of an indemnification fund JDPriestly Oct 2015 #57

You do realize that financial penalties to discourage exercising a enumerated right is a no-no... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #64

Still irrelevant to stopping gun deaths hack89 Oct 2015 #60

The insurance companies should be required to include all the risk of damages by guns JDPriestly Oct 2015 #62

You can't force them to pay out for crime hack89 Oct 2015 #63

"(In my view), all gun owners should pay to indemnify the losses of those hurt by guns." friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #66

Individual gun owner insurance policies Turbineguy Oct 2015 #107

"Reasonable" hack89 Oct 2015 #109

Actually I agree with you Turbineguy Oct 2015 #112

Hey! Cars aren't used to intentionally take out great numbers of lives. C Moon Oct 2015 #24

Except when they are; A HERETIC I AM Oct 2015 #30

Did you read? I said they weren't CREATED for that purpose. Oh boy. It just never stops. C Moon Oct 2015 #72

BwaAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Really? Seriously? Your post is just up there ^ A HERETIC I AM Oct 2015 #73

And yet again this giant heaping of bull. Angleae Oct 2015 #25

trigger locks MasonDreams Oct 2015 #27

Your analogy implies anyone could own unregistered machine guns on private property; even felons aikoaiko Oct 2015 #33

Oh Noes! They're coming to take away OUR CARS!!!! N/t lostnfound Oct 2015 #34

Insurance.... Sivart Oct 2015 #37

In this context, insurance is not supposed to solve a problem hack89 Oct 2015 #41

then make the guns more expensive Sivart Oct 2015 #48

Constitutionally verboten, per the Supremes: friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #50

??? Sivart Oct 2015 #53

There is no enumerated right to own cigarettes or alcohol. There *is* one to own guns friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #67

No, that's really just what lobbyists say is an enumerated right. Now, before you MillennialDem Oct 2015 #82

I heard you out. I'll leave estimates of your mental health to others. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #92

LOL - when you can't argue the facts, engage in ad homs. MillennialDem Oct 2015 #101

Or regulate gun manufacturers like the Repubs have regulated women's health care facilities LonePirate Oct 2015 #54

The taxpayers pay hundreds of billions to pay for the damage guns cause ThoughtCriminal Oct 2015 #70

Several problems with that hack89 Oct 2015 #71

Several replies ThoughtCriminal Oct 2015 #74

Huge difference between paying out for a Sandy Hook and a car accident hack89 Oct 2015 #75

Let me get this staight. ThoughtCriminal Oct 2015 #76

They won't cover crimes. No insurance company will hack89 Oct 2015 #81

The payout debunks your claim ThoughtCriminal Oct 2015 #85

Doesn't matter. You still propose financial penalties in order to limit an enumerated right friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #91

Ah, drop the arguments and try a new one with an irrelevant link ThoughtCriminal Oct 2015 #96

Do you really suppose that gun owners will merely sit on their hands while you gouge them? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #95

More drivers than gun owners ThoughtCriminal Oct 2015 #97

Drivers don't vote at nearly the rate of gun owners, who turn out when motivated friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #115

I've purchased three or so cars in my life. Dr. Strange Oct 2015 #45

It refers to driver's licenses there. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #105

how about "operator licensing" for each as well? DrDan Oct 2015 #47

'Shall-issue', good in all 50 states? I'm cool with that... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #49

Gun "culture" LOL folks, aint giving up their toy, the fact that their toy randys1 Oct 2015 #51

With people with your mindset opposing them, they'll never have to... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #65

10 years ago: "gays lobbying for gay marriage instead of civil unions are going to make it MillennialDem Oct 2015 #84

I was unaware DOMA was a constitutional admendment Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #88

Change enough people's minds and vote enough progressives into office (and put enough judges on MillennialDem Oct 2015 #99

You can drive in all fifty states... Kang Colby Oct 2015 #80

And licenses are "shall-issue" if you pass the test and background check and pay the fee friendly_iconoclast Oct 2015 #94

OTOH would you like those same rules for an email account? Recursion Oct 2015 #89

Makes sense to me treestar Oct 2015 #100