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105. Chavez and Maduro have taken VZ into the worst economy in the world

Wed Nov 11, 2015, 10:10 AM

Nov 2015

We have nothing to do with their policies and failed "revolution". But if you seek to place blame on the US for the sorry state of VZ, then you are merely an apologist who cannot deal with reality. They seized private corporations, refuse to pay out money owed for services, squander their own massive resources, etc. Now they dont have a pot to piss in or any paper to wipe with afterwards. But its all OUR fault. Ridiculous. Yes, Chavez changed things all right. YAaay! Everyone is now equal! Equally miserable!
As for the Balkans, I guess you would have preferred to force the different ethnic groups to have stayed as "Czechoslovakia" instead of allowing them to make their own decisions? We have no products to speak of coming from this area.
And I guess you would have preferred to stay out and allow the Serbs to continue cleansing the entire area of all the OTHER ethnic groups?
Wow, you've not only drank the kool aid, you bathed in it!

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Heartbreaking: Here's what a U.S. soldier said when asked to justify the war on terror [View all] JohnyCanuck Nov 2015 OP

This is why I not only do NOT support our endless wars, SheilaT Nov 2015 #1

So I was thinking the other day upaloopa Nov 2015 #17

I get it all the time... Wounded Bear Nov 2015 #25

Vietnam Roy Rolling Nov 2015 #26

Please, DU. Give me a way to upvote (or downvote) individual comments. This is a +++. erronis Nov 2015 #41

+1000's ozone_man Nov 2015 #84

Why? Because usually no one else will step up unless we do. 7962 Nov 2015 #85

You're quite the belligerent neocon eh? nyabingi Nov 2015 #97

You dont think the Balkans was headed towards genocide? Really? 7962 Nov 2015 #99

We never intervene to stop massacres, and nyabingi Nov 2015 #100

Yes we do. You ignore it because you want to. And you ignore the Balkans example. 7962 Nov 2015 #102

Our intervention, especially when NATO is involved, nyabingi Nov 2015 #104

Chavez and Maduro have taken VZ into the worst economy in the world 7962 Nov 2015 #105

Are you really not aware of the nyabingi Nov 2015 #106

Yes, YOU understand it all dont you? Ha. 7962 Nov 2015 #107

No I don't understand it all nyabingi Nov 2015 #108

But the people only benefitted for a short time. Thats always the problem. 7962 Nov 2015 #109

And it is frightening how many know and still go. raouldukelives Nov 2015 #96

If I may offer the following definitions. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #37

You were drafted. Every single soldier currently SheilaT Nov 2015 #54

And most of these "volunteers" do so because they were fooled to believe that it was either rhett o rick Nov 2015 #61

Nor does the reason they volunteered SheilaT Nov 2015 #68

I agree. nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #77

You are wrong. The majority do not sign up because of romance/duty/patriotism. KittyWampus Nov 2015 #101

I agree this is a huge problem. But poverty isn't on the agenda of a Goldman-Sachs sponsored rhett o rick Nov 2015 #103

No, you're not a warmonger arikara Nov 2015 #64

But that is not the whole point of the OP - truedelphi Nov 2015 #69

Current generations don't understand the draft. trof Nov 2015 #83

I get what you're saying Victor_c3 Nov 2015 #59

I'm so sorry for what you went through arikara Nov 2015 #65

Good on you for unloading. snort Nov 2015 #67

I know how you feel. The River Nov 2015 #72

You're a good person. It's why you're suffering so much now renate Nov 2015 #73

I heard a top VA psychologist say exactly the same thing at a PTSD conference decades ago pinboy3niner Nov 2015 #93

Telling me your story isn't unloading. I absolutely don't feel attacked. SheilaT Nov 2015 #88

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #95

Can't agree with you Joey Liberal Nov 2015 #70

I've been married to 2 men Caretha Nov 2015 #90

You should watch John Oliver from last night. Initech Nov 2015 #87

Yes, that is heartbreaking. And very powerful, I hope he has a lot of support in his life. nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #2

How many warriors appear on TV news compared to their commanding Generals and politicians? Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #3

They fight to protect corporations not Americans bjobotts Nov 2015 #23

" You go to war with the army you have". Inferring sit down and shut up! The Wielding Truth Nov 2015 #92

War - What's It Good For - Absolutely Nothing - Props To Edwin Starr cantbeserious Nov 2015 #4

Service members? HassleCat Nov 2015 #5

Your post made me curious about their pay uppityperson Nov 2015 #7

It might not seem like much HassleCat Nov 2015 #9

US military pay scale, 2015 sarge43 Nov 2015 #18

The pay is much better now than when I served Joey Liberal Nov 2015 #71

My first paycheck, post basic, $98.00. That's a month's worth. sarge43 Nov 2015 #75

Case of beer on Navy base in Guam 1960 $1.50 - $2.00 WHEN CRABS ROAR Nov 2015 #82

There are things like free base housing, including for dependents (though not on active duty, of merrily Nov 2015 #31

Damn. That sounds like SOCIALISM! And WE CAN"T HAVE THAT in the USofA! erronis Nov 2015 #42

The base houses arikara Nov 2015 #66

I've lived in U.S. apt. style base housing and been invited to base homes where officers live. merrily Nov 2015 #78

PX & commissary prices arent a lot lower these days. And not all housing is free. 7962 Nov 2015 #86

The orders do not come from us.Come from Exxon etc bjobotts Nov 2015 #29

If we lived under a functional democracy I would agree with you, but we dont. Volaris Nov 2015 #51

This year I'm dedicating Remembrance Day to the memory of Shidane Arone (Trigger Warning) GliderGuider Nov 2015 #6

One of the reasons to never go to war, of not make the decision lightly is that people dehumanize uppityperson Nov 2015 #8

and we call them heroes? and thanks them for their service? saturnsring Nov 2015 #10

We are victims of a weird kind of Stockholm Syndrome GliderGuider Nov 2015 #15

Holy shit that is sickening.... blackspade Nov 2015 #14

A good reminder... CanSocDem Nov 2015 #62

Only one solution. Don't sign up. I wish more young people realized this. valerief Nov 2015 #11

No more fucking military war propaganda at sporting events. pangaia Nov 2015 #20

We have too much sports in America, but it's actually military training. valerief Nov 2015 #21

Football today reminds me of something from the "Starship Troopers" movie n/t arcane1 Nov 2015 #33

I don't watch movies with names like that, so I don't know exactly what you mean. valerief Nov 2015 #35

I see very few make this connection but it seems obvious to me. harun Nov 2015 #57

Very well said! Thanks for the comparison. nt valerief Nov 2015 #79

How about government? Almost everything feeds it. merrily Nov 2015 #27

? Not sure what your question is. nt valerief Nov 2015 #30

The question was rhetorical. The entertainment industry is not all feeding the military frenzy merrily Nov 2015 #34

Oh, yes, of course. That's true. Because the military is where the oligarchs valerief Nov 2015 #40

I know an awful lot of young people who lusted after the signup bonus ($5-20k) erronis Nov 2015 #45

And this is why the oligarchs don't want a strong middle class. valerief Nov 2015 #80

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Media are monopolies abelenkpe Nov 2015 #38

You may add Grenada, Pananma, Somalia, and Lebanon. bvar22 Nov 2015 #53

2016 we can change directions... tecelote Nov 2015 #13

But war is always like this, and we keep having them. The kid of the 60s and their kids jtuck004 Nov 2015 #16

Stormtroopers for Empire Pharaoh Nov 2015 #19

i watched the latest dr who last night. man, deep anti war writing. pansypoo53219 Nov 2015 #22

I am not going to blame any 20 year old who grew up on jingoism from Dems and Repubs for a thing. merrily Nov 2015 #24

We've abused our military professionals far past their breaking point. Rex Nov 2015 #28

And the Bushes laugh, all the way to the bank. forest444 Nov 2015 #36

He's right on the money. Hulk Nov 2015 #32

''Money trumps peace.'' -- appointed pretzeldent George Walker Bush, Feb. 14, 2007 Octafish Nov 2015 #39

Hillary is partly responsible for this Android3.14 Nov 2015 #43

Thanks for posting. JEB Nov 2015 #44

Elections matter folks. Choose wisely. riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #46

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Each time I see a "Freedom isn't free" bumper sticker, I want to scream in frustration. Bubzer Nov 2015 #47

K & R N/T w0nderer Nov 2015 #48

Major General Smedley Butler (USMC) hifiguy Nov 2015 #50

Brilliant!!! Thespian2 Nov 2015 #91

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i feel like hillary would read this retrowire Nov 2015 #55

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They're just following orders rocktivity Nov 2015 #58

This should be posted silenttigersong Nov 2015 #60

Let's be honest The Wizard Nov 2015 #63

I am not able to go to the link. Mira Nov 2015 #74

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Been there. Done that. Truth. Bottoms_Up Nov 2015 #81

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