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In reply to the discussion: WTF! Free yoga classes suspended over accusation of cultural appropriation [View all]Orrex
(67,119 posts)58. 7 'Ancient' Forms of Mysticism That Are Recent Inventions
#7. Yoga
Ask anyone wearing a leotard and staring off into the middle distance how long yoga has been practiced, and chances are they'll tell you that it's around five thousand years old. In other words, people were stretching and posing serenely several hundred years before aliens secretly built the Egyptian pyramids.
The Reality:
Yoga as we know it today -- a set of postures (asanas) combined with breathing techniques -- dates back to around the grand old year of 1960.
"But how can that be?" you scream, rending your organic exercise mat in two. Well, that "five thousand years old" claim rests entirely on some 5,000-year-old pictures found in the Indus Valley of a man sitting cross-legged. Though this is one of the main yoga positions, it so happens that it's also the position most people take when, you know, they sit on any flat surface.
Yoga is first mentioned by name in some 2,500-year-old Hindu religious texts called the Upanishads, but this is actually a term relating to a method of strapping horses together -- literally the origin for our word "yoke." The Upanishads use it as a metaphor for a mental prayer technique, but as far as all those weird stretches are concerned, the texts mention exactly one physical posture, and that posture is pretty much "sit in a way that makes meditation comfortable." So the word "yoga" might describe an old Hindu teaching, but then so does the word "avatar," and nobody's claiming that the James Cameron movie reflects an unbroken line of ancient sacred tradition.
It wasn't until the 19th century that an Indian prince named Krishnaraja Wodeyar III produced something resembling what we call yoga: a manual called the Sritattvanidhi, which listed 122 poses mostly taken from Indian gymnastics. What really kicked-started modern yoga, though, was the influence of the Imperial British, who introduced Indians to the new exercise craze that was sweeping Europe at the time.
Later a guy named B.K.S. Iyengar came up with the idea of combining these exercise techniques with some of the teachings described in old Hindu texts like the Yoga Sutras and let the result loose on America in the 1960s. Since then, yoga fans have grown by the millions, with few realizing that they are practicing a chanted-up version of early 20th-century gym class.[hr][hr]
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Snarky, but well-documented with hyperlinks.
Ask anyone wearing a leotard and staring off into the middle distance how long yoga has been practiced, and chances are they'll tell you that it's around five thousand years old. In other words, people were stretching and posing serenely several hundred years before aliens secretly built the Egyptian pyramids.
The Reality:
Yoga as we know it today -- a set of postures (asanas) combined with breathing techniques -- dates back to around the grand old year of 1960.
"But how can that be?" you scream, rending your organic exercise mat in two. Well, that "five thousand years old" claim rests entirely on some 5,000-year-old pictures found in the Indus Valley of a man sitting cross-legged. Though this is one of the main yoga positions, it so happens that it's also the position most people take when, you know, they sit on any flat surface.
Yoga is first mentioned by name in some 2,500-year-old Hindu religious texts called the Upanishads, but this is actually a term relating to a method of strapping horses together -- literally the origin for our word "yoke." The Upanishads use it as a metaphor for a mental prayer technique, but as far as all those weird stretches are concerned, the texts mention exactly one physical posture, and that posture is pretty much "sit in a way that makes meditation comfortable." So the word "yoga" might describe an old Hindu teaching, but then so does the word "avatar," and nobody's claiming that the James Cameron movie reflects an unbroken line of ancient sacred tradition.
It wasn't until the 19th century that an Indian prince named Krishnaraja Wodeyar III produced something resembling what we call yoga: a manual called the Sritattvanidhi, which listed 122 poses mostly taken from Indian gymnastics. What really kicked-started modern yoga, though, was the influence of the Imperial British, who introduced Indians to the new exercise craze that was sweeping Europe at the time.
Later a guy named B.K.S. Iyengar came up with the idea of combining these exercise techniques with some of the teachings described in old Hindu texts like the Yoga Sutras and let the result loose on America in the 1960s. Since then, yoga fans have grown by the millions, with few realizing that they are practicing a chanted-up version of early 20th-century gym class.[hr][hr]
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Snarky, but well-documented with hyperlinks.
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WTF! Free yoga classes suspended over accusation of cultural appropriation [View all]
snagglepuss
Nov 2015
OP
ok, no more appalachian or other folk music, because that was appropriated
magical thyme
Nov 2015
#9
And in the Broadway musical "Hamilton", Thomas Jefferson is played as a black rapper.
Nye Bevan
Nov 2015
#11
The way this story is presented makes me believe there's probably other aspects to it
el_bryanto
Nov 2015
#10
It's adorable that you think that there aren't folks out there who think this...
TipTok
Nov 2015
#68
Melting pot, too. However, for now, it's still tougher to "assimilate" when you are not white.
merrily
Nov 2015
#105
I 100% believe occupy wall street was the product of Republican provocateurs
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Nov 2015
#23
your faith-based belief is little more than a guess, implying your own biases rather than any valid
LanternWaste
Nov 2015
#37
I find resurgences of left-wing crackpots around elections suspicious
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Nov 2015
#85
It seems more plausible than progressive millennials independently reviving...
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Nov 2015
#113
If I had any idea what you mean by that, I'm all but sure that I'd almost agree with you.
merrily
Nov 2015
#114
I want to go Homer Simpson on these people when I see this kind of crap being pulled.
Initech
Nov 2015
#82
i would need to see more news sources and other info, this sounds like one of those exaggerated
JI7
Nov 2015
#29
the notion that "cultural appropriation" is a bad thing has been gaining tremendous traction...
mike_c
Nov 2015
#32
People need to sort out real appropriation from knee jerk, culture killing social policing
Matariki
Nov 2015
#39
It comes from people not understanding the real reason behind valid causes
PersonNumber503602
Nov 2015
#61
Exactly. And further to your points these activists are not critical thinkers
snagglepuss
Nov 2015
#45
appropriated from the Dravidians, no? and jyotish was imposed by the Macedonian conquerors
MisterP
Nov 2015
#55
'cultural genocide' Literately word for word argument from white supremacist stormfront / kkk
climber3986
Nov 2015
#72
Well, my day isn't complete untill I join the Daily Mail in laughing at stupid liberals
kcr
Nov 2015
#73
Oh my god, I drank espresso this morning. I CULTURALLY APPROPRIATED FROM THE ITALIANS!
backscatter712
Nov 2015
#97
Everyone who smokes tobacco has appropriated from the Native Americans!
backscatter712
Nov 2015
#108