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Orrex

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58. 7 'Ancient' Forms of Mysticism That Are Recent Inventions
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:51 PM
Nov 2015
#7. Yoga

Ask anyone wearing a leotard and staring off into the middle distance how long yoga has been practiced, and chances are they'll tell you that it's around five thousand years old. In other words, people were stretching and posing serenely several hundred years before aliens secretly built the Egyptian pyramids.

The Reality:

Yoga as we know it today -- a set of postures (asanas) combined with breathing techniques -- dates back to around the grand old year of 1960.

"But how can that be?" you scream, rending your organic exercise mat in two. Well, that "five thousand years old" claim rests entirely on some 5,000-year-old pictures found in the Indus Valley of a man sitting cross-legged. Though this is one of the main yoga positions, it so happens that it's also the position most people take when, you know, they sit on any flat surface.

Yoga is first mentioned by name in some 2,500-year-old Hindu religious texts called the Upanishads, but this is actually a term relating to a method of strapping horses together -- literally the origin for our word "yoke." The Upanishads use it as a metaphor for a mental prayer technique, but as far as all those weird stretches are concerned, the texts mention exactly one physical posture, and that posture is pretty much "sit in a way that makes meditation comfortable." So the word "yoga" might describe an old Hindu teaching, but then so does the word "avatar," and nobody's claiming that the James Cameron movie reflects an unbroken line of ancient sacred tradition.

It wasn't until the 19th century that an Indian prince named Krishnaraja Wodeyar III produced something resembling what we call yoga: a manual called the Sritattvanidhi, which listed 122 poses mostly taken from Indian gymnastics. What really kicked-started modern yoga, though, was the influence of the Imperial British, who introduced Indians to the new exercise craze that was sweeping Europe at the time.

Later a guy named B.K.S. Iyengar came up with the idea of combining these exercise techniques with some of the teachings described in old Hindu texts like the Yoga Sutras and let the result loose on America in the 1960s. Since then, yoga fans have grown by the millions, with few realizing that they are practicing a chanted-up version of early 20th-century gym class.[hr][hr]
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Are we going to have to forego Italian food because annabanana Nov 2015 #1
I will then kiva Nov 2015 #21
Call me cuz, if you like. My paternal grandparents came over from Sicily. nt tblue37 Nov 2015 #30
Hey cuz... kiva Nov 2015 #38
No tomato sauces! 4139 Nov 2015 #51
That's OK, I'm cool with alfredo or kiva Nov 2015 #91
Each a heart attack on a plate, but soooo yummy. merrily Nov 2015 #102
No tomatos gladium et scutum Nov 2015 #115
If they outlaw Italian food... Sam_Fields Nov 2015 #25
Wait: you've been eating pizza and/or pasta? merrily Nov 2015 #101
To get rid of "cultural appropriation" romanic Nov 2015 #2
Nothing like yoga to get people bent out of shape. Dr. Strange Nov 2015 #3
... nolabear Nov 2015 #12
I award you first prize in the daily zinger category GummyBearz Nov 2015 #40
I'm gonna stay on the internet today OriginalGeek Nov 2015 #41
The freaking idjits are running wild on campuses these days. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #4
Absurd. silverweb Nov 2015 #5
Yay SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #6
I ate Italian food today. I'm a racist. Oneironaut Nov 2015 #7
Actually, the Italians culturally appropriated it from the Chinese. Crunchy Frog Nov 2015 #17
Well, Marco Polo actually culturally appropriated those noodles from China, tblue37 Nov 2015 #31
Then what does Burger King's Italian chicken sandwich qualify as? Initech Nov 2015 #60
That doesn't qualify as food Oneironaut Nov 2015 #66
True. Initech Nov 2015 #80
What? No more bendy, twisty co-eds in tight fitting clothing anymore! Heeeeers Johnny Nov 2015 #8
ok, no more appalachian or other folk music, because that was appropriated magical thyme Nov 2015 #9
And in the Broadway musical "Hamilton", Thomas Jefferson is played as a black rapper. Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #11
uh-oh...The Wiz. Annie. magical thyme Nov 2015 #14
Dont like the Black rapper? randys1 Nov 2015 #77
Wait till they hear the first university to ever be founded was Islamic... Lancero Nov 2015 #22
+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #24
And we have to give up algebra because we appropriated that from the Arabs. Yo_Mama Nov 2015 #76
We'll pretty much have to scrap all American music and start over cemaphonic Nov 2015 #92
The way this story is presented makes me believe there's probably other aspects to it el_bryanto Nov 2015 #10
i tend to agree that there must be something else. JanMichael Nov 2015 #18
And if the students don't learn what you're teaching, kentauros Nov 2015 #34
It's adorable that you think that there aren't folks out there who think this... TipTok Nov 2015 #68
Someone in a comment section of a more reliable source says there is kcr Nov 2015 #71
So the Washington Post will be running a correction? Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #83
We used to call that process assimilation. iemitsu Nov 2015 #13
Melting pot, too. However, for now, it's still tougher to "assimilate" when you are not white. merrily Nov 2015 #105
Yes, of course, you're right. iemitsu Nov 2015 #107
Not only whites, but WASP whites. Joe Kennedy, Sr. is a perfect example. merrily Nov 2015 #109
Sounds right. iemitsu Nov 2015 #110
Endless class warfare was not a great p.r. tool. merrily Nov 2015 #111
. NobodyHere Nov 2015 #15
Time for the government to get involved and defund these institutions LittleBlue Nov 2015 #16
Is Iggy Azalea doing yoga again? U4ikLefty Nov 2015 #19
Yoga as practiced in America might as well be its own thing Recursion Nov 2015 #20
why? DonCoquixote Nov 2015 #103
Well, it definitely pisses off militant Hindus here Recursion Nov 2015 #104
there is a difference between a physical practice DonCoquixote Nov 2015 #106
I 100% believe occupy wall street was the product of Republican provocateurs Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2015 #23
+1000 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #26
your faith-based belief is little more than a guess, implying your own biases rather than any valid LanternWaste Nov 2015 #37
I find resurgences of left-wing crackpots around elections suspicious Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2015 #85
And that doesn't seem even the least bit far-fetched to you? merrily Nov 2015 #112
It seems more plausible than progressive millennials independently reviving... Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2015 #113
If I had any idea what you mean by that, I'm all but sure that I'd almost agree with you. merrily Nov 2015 #114
WTF???? It's YOGA for God's sake! PatrickforO Nov 2015 #27
I am so tired of this PC crap. 840high Nov 2015 #28
I want to go Homer Simpson on these people when I see this kind of crap being pulled. Initech Nov 2015 #82
i would need to see more news sources and other info, this sounds like one of those exaggerated JI7 Nov 2015 #29
How about the Washington Post? philosslayer Nov 2015 #62
It's all over the net. 840high Nov 2015 #86
the notion that "cultural appropriation" is a bad thing has been gaining tremendous traction... mike_c Nov 2015 #32
Whatever happened to "imitation is the annabanana Nov 2015 #35
"educated" being the key word here snooper2 Nov 2015 #57
"indoctrinated" would have been a better term. n/t Throd Nov 2015 #67
This is true but as professor of mine pointed out.... Blasphemer Nov 2015 #74
Please explain. LWolf Nov 2015 #93
I didn't say it's bad.... mike_c Nov 2015 #94
That's totally stupid. Oneironaut Nov 2015 #95
I'm an old LWolf Nov 2015 #96
Oh for fuckitty-fuck's sake. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #33
I'm wondering if there is a deeper reason behind this Blue_Tires Nov 2015 #36
People need to sort out real appropriation from knee jerk, culture killing social policing Matariki Nov 2015 #39
Agreed. romanic Nov 2015 #44
I don't agree that anything should be a sacred cow. On one hand it's easy snagglepuss Nov 2015 #47
We're talking about appropriating symbols and practices Matariki Nov 2015 #48
It comes from people not understanding the real reason behind valid causes PersonNumber503602 Nov 2015 #61
this is just a messed-up as the RW fundies coming out against yoga... JCMach1 Nov 2015 #42
If that were to happen then yes yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #78
It did happen several years back... JCMach1 Nov 2015 #100
These idiots are a KKK'ers wet dream Xithras Nov 2015 #43
Exactly. And further to your points these activists are not critical thinkers snagglepuss Nov 2015 #45
That has GOT to be from The Onion! KamaAina Nov 2015 #46
Sadly, it's a thing Matariki Nov 2015 #49
When I see whites complain about appropriation romanic Nov 2015 #50
The UofO syudent union is diverse, in fact the person quoted in the snagglepuss Nov 2015 #52
This is the absurdity of appropriation because you are saying snagglepuss Nov 2015 #53
Meanwhile, the CBC tracked down some local Hindus who were not offended. Matariki Nov 2015 #89
"Waghray doesn't speak for all Hindus though!" romanic Nov 2015 #90
This is the kind of truly cement-headed idiocy hifiguy Nov 2015 #54
appropriated from the Dravidians, no? and jyotish was imposed by the Macedonian conquerors MisterP Nov 2015 #55
Hiking club... Skydiving club... etc..etc.. TipTok Nov 2015 #56
7 'Ancient' Forms of Mysticism That Are Recent Inventions Orrex Nov 2015 #58
Can we tell these idiots to shut up? Please? Initech Nov 2015 #59
No, you didn't offend the idiot community. Dr. Strange Nov 2015 #64
"Shut Uppists" - I like that term! Initech Nov 2015 #79
I'd love to ask these clown shoes... Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #63
That's just the thing Matariki Nov 2015 #70
what are "yoga-like spaces"? 0rganism Nov 2015 #65
They are three-foot by six-foot rubber rectangles, JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2015 #69
it's Riemann space, but also accounting for jnanish MisterP Nov 2015 #87
'cultural genocide' Literately word for word argument from white supremacist stormfront / kkk climber3986 Nov 2015 #72
Well, my day isn't complete untill I join the Daily Mail in laughing at stupid liberals kcr Nov 2015 #73
Here's a CBC article on it... PersonNumber503602 Nov 2015 #75
How about the UK Independent? Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #81
And the Washington Post? Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #84
This message was self-deleted by its author Matariki Nov 2015 #88
Right from the horses mouth Heeeeers Johnny Nov 2015 #99
Oh my god, I drank espresso this morning. I CULTURALLY APPROPRIATED FROM THE ITALIANS! backscatter712 Nov 2015 #97
Oh, nos! No tai chi? TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2015 #98
Everyone who smokes tobacco has appropriated from the Native Americans! backscatter712 Nov 2015 #108
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