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Gmak

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133. Then explain this if you can.

Reply to liberal N proud (Reply #18)

Thu May 12, 2016, 03:02 PM

May 2016

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Have you noticed that the two presumptative nominees for the presidency....... [View all] socialist_n_TN May 2016 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author Buzz Clik May 2016 #1

WTF? RiverNoord May 2016 #2

Other than... deathrind May 2016 #7

It means that that Clinton Supporter could give two shits about you and your problems. Katashi_itto May 2016 #8

That's exactly it. /nt Marr May 2016 #22

I've seen an awful lot of rotten stuff on DU RiverNoord May 2016 #25

It doesn't really have anything to do with the campaign newthinking May 2016 #54

I didn't just want to go straight there :-) RiverNoord May 2016 #63

+1000 Katashi_itto May 2016 #90

that's all? hfojvt May 2016 #108

'that's all?' What is wrong with you? RiverNoord May 2016 #126

thank goodness you don't want to hfojvt May 2016 #137

Yeah, you're really wrong there - just read what I've got to say and then decide. RiverNoord May 2016 #143

Behind whose back? Buzz can see their posts and respond to them, if he wishes. merrily May 2016 #128

behind thexe people's backs hfojvt May 2016 #138

Buzz is one of the worst Doctor_J May 2016 #162

And Clinton and her supporters represent Democratic values? CoffeeCat May 2016 #86

Just what I expect from this particular Clinton supporter. Divernan May 2016 #102

Nailed it! SammyWinstonJack May 2016 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author annavictorious May 2016 #30

Yeah. This is not the place you want to go there. RiverNoord May 2016 #50

You have to excuse some here Rex May 2016 #148

Oh, that's no surprise. RiverNoord May 2016 #151

I meant to reply to the OP annavictorious May 2016 #153

Well, that's not an apology, but it's close. RiverNoord May 2016 #154

Is expanding OASDI what she and Pete Peterson have been discussing? merrily May 2016 #130

You are the one who needs educating. After NAFTA, welfare reform, repeal of Glass-Steagall, etc Gmak May 2016 #132

Spoken like a true Clintonista. Katashi_itto May 2016 #5

Welcome to what is reality to too many people libtodeath May 2016 #6

Mean. Iggo May 2016 #10

Your (lack of) empathy is noted. truebluegreen May 2016 #12

And to think Buzz Clik wants me banned. Octafish May 2016 #76

What did he/she say before he/she deleted their apparently stupid comment? nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #125

Something to the effect of "SS is 90% of your income? That's just sad" (nt) TacoD May 2016 #134

Thanks, the poster apparently bravely scurried away. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #136

There are very few who rank lower, imo. truebluegreen May 2016 #149

Well I have no idea how they stay under the radar, Rex May 2016 #150

Shit statement. n/t demmiblue May 2016 #17

If you're going to attack someone... scscholar May 2016 #103

Read the thread HOPNOSH May 2016 #127

Is it a standard human trait to explain, support and justify ill-will towards others to strangers? LanternWaste May 2016 #171

Yes it is. deathrind May 2016 #3

Yes, I've noticed. BillZBubb May 2016 #4

What COLA? -none May 2016 #55

what cola? heaven05 May 2016 #57

What have you heard was going to change, I know Sanders wanted to remove the max cap when he started Thinkingabout May 2016 #9

Raise retirement age to 70 - which is a HUGE cut and most people won't make it Triana May 2016 #16

Read somewhere that it was set at 65 notemason May 2016 #27

It's not just about "making". People live to 70 but their health is sufferring newthinking May 2016 #74

"Why do we even want people like that in leadership positions." Triana May 2016 #79

You don't need no stinking Social Security notadmblnd May 2016 #11

Link? liberal N proud May 2016 #13

Social Security liberal from boston May 2016 #43

That doesn't support the OP's claim liberal N proud May 2016 #80

I anticipate changes in SS moonbabygo May 2016 #14

There are changes that need to be made - lift the cap, expand jwirr May 2016 #38

I don't think we can save it moonbabygo May 2016 #46

I don't think you have looked into SS sufficiently to say this. KPN May 2016 #56

I only know what I have heard moonbabygo May 2016 #58

Good to know. Look into it. I think you will agree that SS can be made whole and viable KPN May 2016 #61

Different shows...........The mainstream media speaks with forked tongue. Enthusiast May 2016 #139

You know that is what my daughter tells me - I look at her jwirr May 2016 #67

It has always been "spent" (turned into treasury bonds). What has changed is our priorities as a newthinking May 2016 #81

"We" have spent it all?!? chervilant May 2016 #106

This is actually an enormous lie, propagated by people who want to cut it. jeff47 May 2016 #112

Eliminating the cap is the very least that should be done, along with merrily May 2016 #131

The "lockbox" isn't a problem either. jeff47 May 2016 #135

Thanks, Jeff47. The funds should be segregated, IMO. merrily May 2016 #166

Huge +1! Enthusiast May 2016 #140

Raise the cap madokie May 2016 #165

The real problem with Social Security is the loss of all those Living Wage Jobs that used to -none May 2016 #65

That is needed also but maybe we should have started fighting jwirr May 2016 #68

There is no "problem" with Social Security" that is not related to warped priorities and moralities newthinking May 2016 #88

ONE candidate will EXPAND (not cut) social security: BERNIE SANDERS n/t Triana May 2016 #15

No he won't. He might propose it but the Republican House wouldn't even discuss it. nt stevenleser May 2016 #124

ARE YOU AWARE that 80+ % of congress is up for grabs in November 2016? Triana May 2016 #145

Have you not be paying attention to the redistricting issues for the past 6 years stevenleser May 2016 #159

Well that's a step better than Hillary would will sign the cuts and blame the Republicons. nm rhett o rick May 2016 #158

Nope it's not better. Bullshit bluster is bullshit bluster. Nt stevenleser May 2016 #160

Yes, I will yield to the expert. rhett o rick May 2016 #163

Six things we know about Hillary Clinton's Social Security stance liberal N proud May 2016 #18

Good to know. I remember her saying these things at different times. ancianita May 2016 #21

Weird. It seems those would all count as "changes" to the Social Security system MH1 May 2016 #29

One quickly presumes change is bad liberal N proud May 2016 #31

Changes so far have raised the vested retirement age from 65; advocacy to use chained CPI Kip Humphrey May 2016 #45

Chained CPI is a huge issue. I know Bernie will fight that tooth and nail ... KPN May 2016 #64

My recollection is when her campaign first began she was using the same dog whistle phrases we Kip Humphrey May 2016 #83

Yup. I'm with you on that. KPN May 2016 #92

I don't think improvements to pensions Joe Chi Minh May 2016 #51

Huh. RiverNoord May 2016 #40

It is all your emphisis because there is no link liberal N proud May 2016 #72

The only things Sanders supporters have left are lying and scare-mongering. annavictorious May 2016 #41

Exactly...it's pathetic the lying and ignorance...nt joeybee12 May 2016 #52

For example? KPN May 2016 #66

Wait no more... liberal N proud May 2016 #75

I hope she stands by her campaign promises/positions. KPN May 2016 #59

W Post: How Hillary Clinton’s positions have changed as she’s run against Bernie Sanders Omaha Steve May 2016 #62

And that is a problem? liberal N proud May 2016 #82

Would she have evolved without Bernie in the race? Omaha Steve May 2016 #89

Yes. It proves she will SAY anything. It proves her words and deeds have no connection. arcane1 May 2016 #94

And if she didn't evolve you would be attacking her for being to rigid liberal N proud May 2016 #97

You're making up shit now. arcane1 May 2016 #100

I think this thread started with shit being made up liberal N proud May 2016 #105

Believe what you want. Or who you want. n/t arcane1 May 2016 #107

The problem is, Hillary's word is worth shit. arcane1 May 2016 #93

You keep repeating that right wing rhetoric without anything to back it up liberal N proud May 2016 #95

Lying and calling it "right wing" just shows how easily is was for her to fool you. arcane1 May 2016 #99

One thing you left out of your list jeff47 May 2016 #113

Do you have a link to that? liberal N proud May 2016 #115

Are Clinton's own words credible? jeff47 May 2016 #116

And you twisted that into means testing liberal N proud May 2016 #118

Feel free to explain how paying more to the lowest-paid group is not means-testing. jeff47 May 2016 #119

She said she'd be open to raising the retirement age in October in NH riderinthestorm May 2016 #117

Positions can be easily changed just look at Clinton on Gay Marriage SusanLarson May 2016 #123

Then explain this if you can. Gmak May 2016 #133

She also wants to means test Social Security which would make it like a welfare program. Enthusiast May 2016 #142

But, their "openness" is different ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #19

According to her web site, RiverNoord May 2016 #42

"those who need it most" hfojvt May 2016 #110

Simply not true. George II May 2016 #20

There is only one presumptive nominee (and one presumptuous candidate) lagomorph777 May 2016 #23

Right Trump, and then Hillary ... in that order. KPN May 2016 #69

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You didn't see my post up thread - 18. Six things we know about Hillary Clinton's Social Security liberal N proud May 2016 #35

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I linked both for reference liberal N proud May 2016 #78

You mean the changes protect and expand SS? annavictorious May 2016 #44

Hillary is Third Way. djean111 May 2016 #26

You're what's known as a "low information voter." annavictorious May 2016 #36

Results... Major Nikon May 2016 #60

Still waiting. KPN May 2016 #71

Yup -- starve the beast. KPN May 2016 #70

Don't worry, they won't mess with elderly too much. fbc May 2016 #28

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It is 100% of my income. I really do not understand why jwirr May 2016 #32

Actually read the policy paper annavictorious May 2016 #37

You believe that at your peril. dchill May 2016 #84

She said she'd be open to raising the retirement age in October in NH riderinthestorm May 2016 #120

That's my problem with Hillary, a proclivity for weasel lingo. Enthusiast May 2016 #146

That is a perplexing question. We have a chance for something better... why not take it. yourpaljoey May 2016 #87

With respect to you and your wife, you will almost certainly not be affected Stinky The Clown May 2016 #33

Please show evidence to support your assertions. Enthusiast May 2016 #147

why do the rich need SS? moonbabygo May 2016 #47

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #48

Ah, first I must tell you that this is not a threat - just a reason jwirr May 2016 #91

Because that is what keeps the program alive. jeff47 May 2016 #114

Simple, really. It makes it harder for them to steal our money and futures and cuts into theirs! FighttheFuture May 2016 #144

Because they paid into it. It is not a handout you earn it! Logical May 2016 #164

Bernie put EXPANDING Social Security on the table..... Spitfire of ATJ May 2016 #49

That's the establishment speaking - the status quo wants more status quo. eom Betty Karlson May 2016 #53

Or more to the point Populist_Prole May 2016 #104

Bill Clinton very interested in Chile's changes to Social Security, post CIA coup... Octafish May 2016 #73

VERY SCARY, and absolutely unacceptable. Who is responsible for selecting these two? highprincipleswork May 2016 #77

obvious u didn't take the time to read Cryptoad May 2016 #85

Yes, be afraid. zentrum May 2016 #96

Yes I have noticed Ferd Berfel May 2016 #98

twins I say PatrynXX May 2016 #101

Yes, but there could be positive changes. lark May 2016 #111

Yes felix_numinous May 2016 #121

when did the democratic presumptive nominee say that? spanone May 2016 #122

Have you seen this video by Progressive Politics of Creepy Bill & Paul Ryan plotting the destruction Gmak May 2016 #129

LOL Skittles May 2016 #155

They sure sound like they're on the same side. CharlotteVale May 2016 #156

Obama could not get the cuts done with his "Grand Bargain" initiative so its up to the next servants FighttheFuture May 2016 #141

Obama just renominated a Republican who wants to privatize Social Security to the CharlotteVale May 2016 #157

He's working hard to secure his ticket into "the club". He saw the millions made by the Clinton's FighttheFuture May 2016 #168

Define changes, please. Bernie says he wants to expand SS, isn't that a change? n/t doc03 May 2016 #152

That is why they are the presumptive nominees. Corporate America wants that money Doctor_J May 2016 #161

Bernie has proposed changes to Social Security Progressive dog May 2016 #167

Right. He is also "open to changes." But like Hillary, his changes would be positive. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #170

They have OPPOSITE positions. Hillary is open to changes like lifting the lid on social security pnwmom May 2016 #169