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athena

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19. At least (most) people today see that racism is a problem.
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 01:09 PM
Jul 2016

Sexism seems to be just fine with most people, even on DU. Just look at all the posts that say that women's complaints about sexism have "gotten old". You can make an outrageously sexist statement, and people will defend it as being the truth, while criticizing feminists who complain as being thin-skinned or not having a sense of humor. The same is not true of racism.

In my opinion, racism is more acute, but sexism runs deeper. One day, people will be treated equally regardless of their skin color. Black people will no longer be killed by cops for the crime of being Black. That day, society will still expect that women do most of the cooking, cleaning, and child care in the home, as if women were naturally born as second-class citizens whose purpose on Earth is to serve as men's maids. Large numbers of people will still believe that women should be forced against their will to go through pregnancy and give birth because a woman's bodily integrity is less important than the pain that might be felt by a fetus that might be male. Women will still be underrepresented in government and the top echelons of corporations. People will still blame women for their own underrepresentation in the sciences by saying, as Larry Summers did, that they just choose not to work as hard. Women who dare to speak their minds in business meetings will still lose out on promotions for being "aggressive" and having a "strong personality". Female politicians will still be criticized for being "shrill", "loud", "angry", and "entitled". And the worst part of it is that almost no one will see a problem with any of this.

It's really counterproductive to try to argue that either sexism or racism is more important. We must join forces to fight both at the same time. A person who can recognize sexism is more likely to be able to recognize racism, and vice versa. This is not a contest.

Curious about your thoughts [View all] RazBerryBeret Jul 2016 OP
It's not a comparative thing. MineralMan Jul 2016 #1
Agree, trying to make it a competition is silly. Rex Jul 2016 #2
silly is a dumb word. RazBerryBeret Jul 2016 #8
Your poll makes it into a competition. Rex Jul 2016 #9
interesting RazBerryBeret Jul 2016 #15
Well now you know. Rex Jul 2016 #16
My thoughts as well. Boomerproud Jul 2016 #10
thank you for the thoughtful response. n/t RazBerryBeret Jul 2016 #17
Silly poll. Both of them are prevalent. What is the point of this? Squinch Jul 2016 #3
just asking a question RazBerryBeret Jul 2016 #12
Who got the vote first? Who got the Presidency first. Privilege of white as we walk in the world. Nt seabeyond Jul 2016 #13
"Which will influence the current election cycle more" is an entirely different question from Squinch Jul 2016 #23
Dear God RazBerryBeret Jul 2016 #24
Other. LWolf Jul 2016 #4
Racism is overt, sexism not as much, but prevelant. A dead black man is pretty profound. seabeyond Jul 2016 #5
We have a man running for President edhopper Jul 2016 #6
yes we do RazBerryBeret Jul 2016 #18
Other: Zero-sum thinking. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2016 #7
Both are at about the same levels. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #11
both. it's not a competition. La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #14
At least (most) people today see that racism is a problem. athena Jul 2016 #19
Excellent post. Nt seabeyond Jul 2016 #20
this was seriously not to prove a "winner" RazBerryBeret Jul 2016 #21
And yet it is structured so that the responder must pick a "winner." Perhaps the problem is Squinch Jul 2016 #25
OK, I understand, but I still think it's too hard to choose one over the other. athena Jul 2016 #27
Excellent post. I would add two words to one of your sentences: chknltl Jul 2016 #31
I was trying to say in that sentence athena Jul 2016 #32
Half the planet might agree with you chknltl Jul 2016 #35
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2016 #36
Thhe reason for them-why? SheriffBob Jul 2016 #22
I believe that if you are one you are likely to not believe in other forms of equality.. chknltl Jul 2016 #26
I agree with that. Birds of a feather. Rex Jul 2016 #28
It's great to finally be able to agree with a Bernie supporter on something! athena Jul 2016 #29
We agree here so far but maybe not further. chknltl Jul 2016 #34
You shouldn't assume to know what others believe athena Jul 2016 #37
Nor should you. chknltl Jul 2016 #38
I personally believe Clintons position is more strong. She addressed the unlevel playing field those seabeyond Jul 2016 #39
You are someone I'd rather not be in disagreement with. chknltl Jul 2016 #40
Clearly, it doesn't pay to compliment a Bernie supporter. athena Jul 2016 #41
No compliments were paid, only agreements and disagreements chknltl Jul 2016 #43
Doesn't matter. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2016 #30
Other: Racism is deep, sexism is wide... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #33
Neither. The entire system is built on both. Brickbat Jul 2016 #42
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