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7wo7rees

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31. 6 months notice.

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 12:15 PM

Aug 2016

The ranch and family that owned it was something from the past. As noted up thread spanned 5 counties and in existence as long as "Texas".
The people with homes on this leased land deserved more respect. I am quite sure this is nothing the families that sold would have ever wanted to see happen. It is something that should have been taken care of in the sale.

The ranch and the family that owned has a fascinating history.
http://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/showdown-at-waggoner-ranch/

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Stan Kroenke tells hundreds of fixed income residents in Texas to get off his newly-bought land [View all] modem77 Aug 2016 OP

Disgusting. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #1

It's Texas. These people will get no help or relief. Ilsa Aug 2016 #2

Oh, yeah. I see a very familiar pattern. Paladin Aug 2016 #15

Born, raised, worked, home, such as it is. NT Ilsa Aug 2016 #17

hahahaha TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2016 #53

Yeah, those Californians are such good guys TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2016 #54

Damn, as Miley Cyrus would say- Sweet Burn snooper2 Aug 2016 #67

Why? Glamrock Aug 2016 #3

Well, the bundy bunch wants to do the same thing; graze their herds and animals for free underahedgerow Aug 2016 #59

Listen man Glamrock Aug 2016 #61

It's his land, like it or not. linuxman Aug 2016 #4

I know, right? It's so moronic to not be able to afford to own land. kcr Aug 2016 #5

No, it's moronic to sink your life saving into building a house on land you don't own. linuxman Aug 2016 #8

Oh, are they just like kids crying because their sandcastle got washed away? kcr Aug 2016 #10

I'm sorry you don't understand the analogy. linuxman Aug 2016 #11

Living on land you don't own is the same as building a sand castle... Okay then. kcr Aug 2016 #16

That's why it's called an analogy. linuxman Aug 2016 #23

I don't think these people felt they had any special claim on the land. kcr Aug 2016 #27

They built houses on it. Straw Man Aug 2016 #41

We're not talking about a game of plant the flag, here. kcr Aug 2016 #42

What are you talking about? Straw Man Aug 2016 #45

Would you put a new set of tires on a rental car? philosslayer Aug 2016 #55

I feel terrible for them but agree. alphafemale Aug 2016 #14

This was not a typical situation, though. kcr Aug 2016 #18

It was leased land. A lease has no real guarantee. alphafemale Aug 2016 #20

I understand what a lease is. Really. I do. kcr Aug 2016 #21

So screw the owner's property rights because it's a big parcel, I suppose. linuxman Aug 2016 #25

No kcr Aug 2016 #26

I'm not calling them stupid for losing their homes, linuxman Aug 2016 #28

So, they were supposed to assume it would happen one day kcr Aug 2016 #29

Precedent and history are fine factors in decision making. linuxman Aug 2016 #33

So, are they factors in decision making, or aren't they? kcr Aug 2016 #34

Eminent domain stipulates that you're compensated with fair market value for the land & structures linuxman Aug 2016 #35

That's fine if the market is at the same rate it was when you bought kcr Aug 2016 #36

What if I had wheels? I'd be a wagon. linuxman Aug 2016 #37

If there is eminant domain, they pay me the fair value of my house Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #51

the more popular sentiment being rationalized is simply screw the idiots who built on the land LanternWaste Aug 2016 #64

Agreed. linuxman Aug 2016 #22

Most of them are very likely mobile homes Warpy Aug 2016 #52

yeah... screw 'em. . . . . . annabanana Aug 2016 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author kcr Aug 2016 #7

No need. Sounds like they screwed their selves. linuxman Aug 2016 #9

Yup. Why would you build a home on land with a short term lease? underahedgerow Aug 2016 #62

Capitalist pigs like Kroenke can go fuck themselves, and fuck their "property". Odin2005 Aug 2016 #39

LOL, right. linuxman Aug 2016 #40

Yeah it's terrible to expect people to have common decency. Kingofalldems Aug 2016 #50

Hard to feel any outrage FLPanhandle Aug 2016 #12

it is a sad situation, but you are absolutely correct DrDan Aug 2016 #19

I don't understand why this is even a news story Nevernose Aug 2016 #13

6 months notice. 7wo7rees Aug 2016 #31

He says he's returning the land to it's natural state NickB79 Aug 2016 #24

Earth First, poor people last... Angel Martin Aug 2016 #43

He will probably develop it into hotels and strip malls or some way for him to make money. modem77 Aug 2016 #47

Somewhere, there's an environmentalist TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2016 #56

If he was really doing it to restore the environment, I'd applaud the move. Xithras Aug 2016 #69

The man's name is Enos, NOT "Stan"...and he is human refuse in living form. Moostache Aug 2016 #30

A better way would have been for Krinkle-Krisp to purchase development rights... Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #49

If it went the other way w'd be upset. Igel Aug 2016 #32

Worthless piece of shit screwing over people, you don't say, BTW, I'm a St. Louisan, fuck this... Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #38

this guy has form, I'll give him that Angel Martin Aug 2016 #44

Who builds a house on land they don't own?? X_Digger Aug 2016 #46

Lessees may have a shot under the legal "theory of laches..." Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #48

Don't see how that would apply since Kroenke just bought the property in February. WillowTree Aug 2016 #57

My new favorite Enos Kroenke anecdote: Moostache Aug 2016 #58

But he's just a good Texan, a good conservative, a good Christian n/t Matrosov Aug 2016 #60

No, he's not. TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2016 #63

Actually he was born and lives in Missouri, Revanchist Aug 2016 #66

Well, he's not a Texan! TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2016 #68

if i understand correctly homeowners in hawaii also lease their land dembotoz Aug 2016 #65

So if I'm undersranding the consensus here....... WillowTree Aug 2016 #70