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In reply to the discussion: This election is a binary event. Calling for Obama's defeat *IS* advocating for Romney's victory. [View all]TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)Why would anyone respond to those that are already captured? They don't have to do a damn thing because there are no consequences and nothing to be gained or lost if they don't.
How do you even convey the message that you want something different if you unflinchingly and reflexively go along with whatever you are served. It would seem to me that the message sent would be keep it up and more where that came from.
I see no effective pressure from "yells" or tying up Congress' phone lines and very little from the money since the real game is capturing corporate dollars from folks with greatly divergent wants and "needs" from those of us that have to eat ramen to send the fuckers a few begged for dollars.
People don't talk about cutting of their nose to spite their face, not many anyway. They contemplate cutting off their nose because it is cancerous and will eventually destroy their face and kill the whole damn body.
You are arguing to support bad policies because eventually it will lead to good policies in the form of bones tossed to loyal dogs.
When does that happen? I think you are arguing that it happens among the TeaPubliKlans which I see little evidence of. They get the policies their leaders want and their leaders spend millions and billions getting them to want the shit they are selling which will do nothing but fuck the glass crawlers.
What was the last bone thrown to the GOP masses that conflicted with the aims of the money people?
The GOP/GOP base dynamic is not a model. Our people get fed up from getting fucked over, the TeaPubliKlan masses get pissed when the screwings might be reduced because they are about sure they will soon be doing the screwings (if they are not already under the misimpression that they are already).
It is like folks on our side always want to point to the impact of the Teabaggers but simultaneously forget that the whole deal was engineered, organized, and funded by Republican professional insiders and their big donors including a former Speaker of the House.
You are also projecting loyalty where there is none that I can see, essentially faith based transactional politics. As if we support enough free trade agreements then they will think kindly on that support and end them or if we just back them on austerity that they will strengthen the safety nets.
Hell, if we do as you suggest we won't be liberals anymore, not in effective terms. We'll play along until the political spectrum shrinks to nothing with a few silently praying for the bones to be thrown but the gist of what once was fought for forgotten and new frontiers abandoned completely.