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RiverStone

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10. This has nothing to do with Nancy being a woman

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 04:03 PM

Nov 2016

I'd love it if another progressive woman in the mold of Elizabeth Warren stepped forward as a leader option, though I can't fathom how (even with all Nancy's fundraising connections) it makes sense to install leadership which has NOT demonstrated leadership by having a winning strategy?

My son who is 23 was not politically active until this election cycle. He campaigned hard for Bernie (as did I). Where we split is I settled on Hillary and voted because she was running against a fascist. He and is friends want to see something substantially different to remain engaged in the Dems. Nancy & Chuck to his age (so I hear) is a total non-starter. As if the Dems think they can move forward and ignore them.

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Tim Ryan beating Nancy Pelosi on 11/30 is exactly what we need! [View all] RiverStone Nov 2016 OP

I Do Not Second That Notion Me. Nov 2016 #1

Unfortuneately, I agree that Nancy will probably be elected...but RiverStone Nov 2016 #12

it's seems like you are saying you support newness more than any policy stance La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #23

Valid point, and yet Millennials and Generation Z... RiverStone Nov 2016 #32

If There's Anything Nancy Isn't, It's Ineffective Me. Nov 2016 #35

I agree! GWC58 Nov 2016 #37

Literally, Nancy Pelosi was able to get blue dog democrats to pass the ACA... SaschaHM Nov 2016 #48

Maybe these millennials should be better informed La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #36

WAS highly effective RiverStone Nov 2016 #57

She doesn't run campaigns. The loss is not La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #58

Because gerrymandering had NOTHING to do with those losses.... (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #62

To paraphrase Bernie, "It's not enough to vote for someone because they are young." (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #61

Has Ryan attempted to impose his anti-choice opinion through legislation? brooklynite Nov 2016 #64

? La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #65

Anti-choice position brooklynite Nov 2016 #67

Oh, yeah, she's not one of the cool kids, we don't want her. pnwmom Nov 2016 #38

Who said they like Trump? RiverStone Nov 2016 #42

Too many of them didn't vote or threw their votes away on 3rd party, pnwmom Nov 2016 #43

agree and disagree RiverStone Nov 2016 #50

Who pays attention to roll votes and overall records? JonLP24 Nov 2016 #66

Millennials did not elect Trump JonLP24 Nov 2016 #68

okay - not to start a generational debate.... OhioBlue Nov 2016 #71

I thought I was Gen Xer until the word millennial came out JonLP24 Nov 2016 #80

Well, at least you get to be an "older millennial" OhioBlue Nov 2016 #81

"Shaking things up" -that's working real well this year isn't it? Nope. bettyellen Nov 2016 #2

?? Not shaking things up killed Dems this year. Barack_America Nov 2016 #25

I have no big beef with Pelosi, but it is good to get rust belt folks into leadership aikoaiko Nov 2016 #3

aka "white male" Horse with no Name Nov 2016 #5

I think when you include Keith Ellison in the group you might find it less gross aikoaiko Nov 2016 #6

I would support Keith Ellison Horse with no Name Nov 2016 #7

I'd prefer to see the best person get the job. Not bothered about what color they are. OnDoutside Nov 2016 #22

toi toi pangaia Nov 2016 #28

Meanwhile Trump made two more picks today.... In an ideal world, the winner will be OnDoutside Nov 2016 #31

No...he will have to worry too much about reelection in Ohio which went Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #51

Another good start. NT Eleanors38 Nov 2016 #4

We're the minority party. Just WHO heads it in the house is not Hortensis Nov 2016 #8

This has nothing to do with Nancy being a woman RiverStone Nov 2016 #10

It may not be to us, but the end result would be. Hortensis Nov 2016 #11

We share the passionate fuck yous, but please... RiverStone Nov 2016 #14

How was she responsible? What should she have done Hortensis Nov 2016 #19

My question re Nancy was future tense RiverStone Nov 2016 #21

And I believe the problem is with both the Hortensis Nov 2016 #30

Pelosi is just as progressive as Warren. And the area she represents is just as blue. pnwmom Nov 2016 #39

It's the area of the country Nancy does NOT represent which concerns (see Rust Belt) RiverStone Nov 2016 #47

The job of the House in the opposition party is to engage the enemy Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #52

What do you think the rust belt wants to see that is NOT progressive, pnwmom Nov 2016 #63

Maybe. moondust Nov 2016 #9

Except the job of the House minority leader isn't to relate to voters. CBHagman Nov 2016 #13

I teach at a college and have kids in their 20's RiverStone Nov 2016 #15

I'm all for reexamining the leadership and reenergizing... CBHagman Nov 2016 #17

Good points, in particular the need for serious self-examination RiverStone Nov 2016 #18

Tim Ryan may vote with the GOP bad idea. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #45

Because they have no idea how politics is actually DONE alarimer Nov 2016 #69

True. moondust Nov 2016 #16

Tim Ryan didn't do much to help dems in ohio JI7 Nov 2016 #20

Tim Ryan is a mediocre back bencher La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #24

Mediocre Is Exactly The Word Me. Nov 2016 #41

I think Pelosi should go. She has been leader since 2003 but.. hrmjustin Nov 2016 #26

I disagreee. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #54

That is why I feel conflicted. hrmjustin Nov 2016 #56

I like Tim Ryan but Trump took Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #72

What is Ryan's plan? Starry Messenger Nov 2016 #27

Yes, more info is good! One example of rational here: RiverStone Nov 2016 #34

he is a white man from ohio JI7 Nov 2016 #70

I agree, there needs to be new leadership. Next generation leaders need to emerge from this carnage WestSeattle2 Nov 2016 #29

Yep! Next Gen leadership would rock! RiverStone Nov 2016 #33

While I believe we need to go younger, Tim Ryan is not the answer krawhitham Nov 2016 #40

I live in Ohio and I like Tim Ryan. I voted for him. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #44

This is like when half of du was supporting tulsi La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #46

He is not liberal and has to worry about reelection in Ohio. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #49

Yes I am 100 percent opposed to him La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #55

We need someone from a deep blue state Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #73

After hearing Ryan sidestep and duck questions on MSNBC I really wasn't impressed with the guy. TeamPooka Nov 2016 #53

IMO, Tim Ryan has no clot at all in the House and I think we are mixing CK_John Nov 2016 #59

Yeah, let's have the inexperienced white guy mcar Nov 2016 #60

Other than "newness" Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2016 #74

I am all for Tim Ryan (or someone new) for House Minority Leader. PufPuf23 Nov 2016 #75

I did not like his latest comments at all I hope rwheeler31 Nov 2016 #76

You may be right. kentuck Nov 2016 #77

Yes Yes Yes!!!!!! Faux pas Nov 2016 #78

Pelini probably can't bring us back to victory, she is very unpopular. DemocraticWing Nov 2016 #79

pelosi is a progressive . the reason we can't win is because of gerrymandered districts JI7 Nov 2016 #82

oh FFS DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #83