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PufPuf23

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75. I am all for Tim Ryan (or someone new) for House Minority Leader.
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 01:51 PM
Nov 2016

Like the pick of Keith Ellison for DNC Chair.

Do not like Schumer for Senate Minority Leader.

I will never forgive Pelosi for taking the impeachment of GW Bush "off the table".

The House (and Senate) hearings would have revealed more about Iraq and related matters and in a more timely manner rather than what has occurred and now down the memory whole or irrelevant.

We would be much better off today as a country and as the Democratic party.

http://www.nytimes.com/cq/2006/11/08/cq_1916.html

Pelosi: Bush Impeachment `Off the Table’

By Susan Ferrechio
Published: November 8, 2006

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi promised Wednesday that when her party takes over, the new majority will not attempt to remove President Bush from office, despite earlier pledges to the contrary from others in the caucus.

“I have said it before and I will say it again: Impeachment is off the table,” Pelosi, D-Calif., said during a news conference.
Pelosi also said Democrats, despite complaining about years of unfair treatment by the majority GOP, “are not about getting even” with Republicans.
She said the GOP, which frequently excluded Democrats from conference committee hearings and often blocked attempts to introduce amendments, would not suffer similar treatment.

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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/07/10/pelosi_dems_couldve_impeached_bush_was_not_something_i_wanted_to_put_the_country_through.html

Pelosi: Dems Could've Impeached Bush, "Was Not Something I Wanted To Put The Country Through"

Posted By Ian Schwartz
On Date July 10, 2014

REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA): The argument against President Bush was about a president and an administration that sent us into a war based on a false representation of a threat of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. That's a major accusation against the president, and I, myself, said that at the time. You know, in 2002 when the bill came up. The intelligence does not support the threat that the president -- not the president, his administration is contending.

Having said that, it's not about impeaching the president. It's about putting the country through that. I thought what the Republicans did to President Clinton was shameful, irresponsible, and wrong for the country. And what he did was stupid, but it had nothing to do with public policy and his office, his responsibility and his office.

I do think people could have made a case about President Bush, but I did not want to go down that path because of what it would mean for the American people. We've just tried to impeach -- well, we did impeach but did not remove from office one president in a very irresponsible manner in my view on the part of the Republicans in the House at the time.

And I thought it was time for us to address -- try to end that war, which we voted to do, and the president vetoed our bill, but to deal with it in a policy way rather than take us down that path. So, for even the Republicans now to be talking about suing the president, what are we talking about here? Let's get to work. We are legislators. They're not effective legislators, so they're changing the subject all the time.

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I Do Not Second That Notion Me. Nov 2016 #1
Unfortuneately, I agree that Nancy will probably be elected...but RiverStone Nov 2016 #12
it's seems like you are saying you support newness more than any policy stance La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #23
Valid point, and yet Millennials and Generation Z... RiverStone Nov 2016 #32
If There's Anything Nancy Isn't, It's Ineffective Me. Nov 2016 #35
I agree! GWC58 Nov 2016 #37
Literally, Nancy Pelosi was able to get blue dog democrats to pass the ACA... SaschaHM Nov 2016 #48
Maybe these millennials should be better informed La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #36
WAS highly effective RiverStone Nov 2016 #57
She doesn't run campaigns. The loss is not La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #58
Because gerrymandering had NOTHING to do with those losses.... (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #62
To paraphrase Bernie, "It's not enough to vote for someone because they are young." (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #61
Has Ryan attempted to impose his anti-choice opinion through legislation? brooklynite Nov 2016 #64
? La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #65
Anti-choice position brooklynite Nov 2016 #67
Oh, yeah, she's not one of the cool kids, we don't want her. pnwmom Nov 2016 #38
Who said they like Trump? RiverStone Nov 2016 #42
Too many of them didn't vote or threw their votes away on 3rd party, pnwmom Nov 2016 #43
agree and disagree RiverStone Nov 2016 #50
Who pays attention to roll votes and overall records? JonLP24 Nov 2016 #66
Millennials did not elect Trump JonLP24 Nov 2016 #68
okay - not to start a generational debate.... OhioBlue Nov 2016 #71
I thought I was Gen Xer until the word millennial came out JonLP24 Nov 2016 #80
Well, at least you get to be an "older millennial" OhioBlue Nov 2016 #81
"Shaking things up" -that's working real well this year isn't it? Nope. bettyellen Nov 2016 #2
?? Not shaking things up killed Dems this year. Barack_America Nov 2016 #25
I have no big beef with Pelosi, but it is good to get rust belt folks into leadership aikoaiko Nov 2016 #3
aka "white male" Horse with no Name Nov 2016 #5
I think when you include Keith Ellison in the group you might find it less gross aikoaiko Nov 2016 #6
I would support Keith Ellison Horse with no Name Nov 2016 #7
I'd prefer to see the best person get the job. Not bothered about what color they are. OnDoutside Nov 2016 #22
toi toi pangaia Nov 2016 #28
Meanwhile Trump made two more picks today.... In an ideal world, the winner will be OnDoutside Nov 2016 #31
No...he will have to worry too much about reelection in Ohio which went Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #51
Another good start. NT Eleanors38 Nov 2016 #4
We're the minority party. Just WHO heads it in the house is not Hortensis Nov 2016 #8
This has nothing to do with Nancy being a woman RiverStone Nov 2016 #10
It may not be to us, but the end result would be. Hortensis Nov 2016 #11
We share the passionate fuck yous, but please... RiverStone Nov 2016 #14
How was she responsible? What should she have done Hortensis Nov 2016 #19
My question re Nancy was future tense RiverStone Nov 2016 #21
And I believe the problem is with both the Hortensis Nov 2016 #30
Pelosi is just as progressive as Warren. And the area she represents is just as blue. pnwmom Nov 2016 #39
It's the area of the country Nancy does NOT represent which concerns (see Rust Belt) RiverStone Nov 2016 #47
The job of the House in the opposition party is to engage the enemy Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #52
What do you think the rust belt wants to see that is NOT progressive, pnwmom Nov 2016 #63
Maybe. moondust Nov 2016 #9
Except the job of the House minority leader isn't to relate to voters. CBHagman Nov 2016 #13
I teach at a college and have kids in their 20's RiverStone Nov 2016 #15
I'm all for reexamining the leadership and reenergizing... CBHagman Nov 2016 #17
Good points, in particular the need for serious self-examination RiverStone Nov 2016 #18
Tim Ryan may vote with the GOP bad idea. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #45
Because they have no idea how politics is actually DONE alarimer Nov 2016 #69
True. moondust Nov 2016 #16
Tim Ryan didn't do much to help dems in ohio JI7 Nov 2016 #20
Tim Ryan is a mediocre back bencher La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #24
Mediocre Is Exactly The Word Me. Nov 2016 #41
I think Pelosi should go. She has been leader since 2003 but.. hrmjustin Nov 2016 #26
I disagreee. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #54
That is why I feel conflicted. hrmjustin Nov 2016 #56
I like Tim Ryan but Trump took Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #72
What is Ryan's plan? Starry Messenger Nov 2016 #27
Yes, more info is good! One example of rational here: RiverStone Nov 2016 #34
he is a white man from ohio JI7 Nov 2016 #70
I agree, there needs to be new leadership. Next generation leaders need to emerge from this carnage WestSeattle2 Nov 2016 #29
Yep! Next Gen leadership would rock! RiverStone Nov 2016 #33
While I believe we need to go younger, Tim Ryan is not the answer krawhitham Nov 2016 #40
I live in Ohio and I like Tim Ryan. I voted for him. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #44
This is like when half of du was supporting tulsi La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #46
He is not liberal and has to worry about reelection in Ohio. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #49
Yes I am 100 percent opposed to him La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2016 #55
We need someone from a deep blue state Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #73
After hearing Ryan sidestep and duck questions on MSNBC I really wasn't impressed with the guy. TeamPooka Nov 2016 #53
IMO, Tim Ryan has no clot at all in the House and I think we are mixing CK_John Nov 2016 #59
Yeah, let's have the inexperienced white guy mcar Nov 2016 #60
Other than "newness" Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2016 #74
I am all for Tim Ryan (or someone new) for House Minority Leader. PufPuf23 Nov 2016 #75
I did not like his latest comments at all I hope rwheeler31 Nov 2016 #76
You may be right. kentuck Nov 2016 #77
Yes Yes Yes!!!!!! Faux pas Nov 2016 #78
Pelini probably can't bring us back to victory, she is very unpopular. DemocraticWing Nov 2016 #79
pelosi is a progressive . the reason we can't win is because of gerrymandered districts JI7 Nov 2016 #82
oh FFS DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #83
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