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LovingA2andMI

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37. You're WRONG....Plain and Simple.

Mon Dec 5, 2016, 11:32 PM

Dec 2016

First, do you live in Michigan? Second, do you have any insight on how votes are recounted in the State of Michigan?

So, again -- we will refer to the article at hand:

According to the Detroit News, 392 of the City of Detroit's 662 precincts are unavailable for recounted due to ballot numbers not matching poll book data.

These are CLERICAL AND TRAINING errors. Voters attended the polls, filled out a ballot, those ballots were likely accepted by the machine but failed to reconcile with the poll book as Election Workers failed to properly note the ballot to the name associated in the poll book.

Is this the voter's fault? If so, explain how? Should their votes not be counted due to an error that was no fault of their own? If so, explain why?

Also, before answering ANY of these questions, read the Detroit News article, as we would assume Journalists who we know at the Detroit News, got their "Headline" wrong too.

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Michigan Recount Problems Are Emerging - Thousands of Ballots in Detroit May Remain Uncounted [View all] LovingA2andMI Dec 2016 OP

That should be patently illegal. If the vote is there, it should be counted as cast. shraby Dec 2016 #1

Agree.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2016 #4

And If The Votes Could Be Recounted... LovingA2andMI Dec 2016 #6

The original count for the precinct will count... but will not be recounted... 4139 Dec 2016 #7

Exactly.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2016 #13

They are not uncounted SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #16

Why does the OP say they will remain uncounted then? brush Dec 2016 #53

That was the headline of the story SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #54

b/c the MI official says that's the way it is (puke) wordpix Dec 2016 #61

59%? The repugs stole this election in Detroit. Period wordpix Dec 2016 #59

What?please explain.... apcalc Dec 2016 #2

Here's the description but I can't explain it 4139 Dec 2016 #10

the MI official says these ballots are not recountable and how dare you ask why not? (sarcasm) wordpix Dec 2016 #60

I wonder if Rick Snyder (poison the water in Flint) Republican Governor had anything to do with this putitinD Dec 2016 #3

The Issues With Detroit Votes... LovingA2andMI Dec 2016 #5

Get this information to citizens of Detroit Aimee in OKC Dec 2016 #23

That's the Hope... LovingA2andMI Dec 2016 #31

If the vote was not done properly in 2009, and 2013, Maybe Snyder didn't really win either election. putitinD Dec 2016 #25

Bingo.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2016 #32

Calling DOJ, calling DOJ, where are you? If I were a Detroit resident wordpix Dec 2016 #62

K&R time for the FBI to investigate the Trump cyber-crime syndicate Jeffersons Ghost Dec 2016 #8

Probably will never happen. Trump, is their white man for office. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #12

he's certainly POS Comey's guy for sure wordpix Dec 2016 #63

Sue the state for violation of voting and civil rights, Ms Stein. roamer65 Dec 2016 #9

Now That Might Be A Solution.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2016 #14

and while you are at it, MS Stein. Sue to get Rick Snyder's Governership revoked. If the Detroit putitinD Dec 2016 #27

I think that Michigan folks need to start a revolt and demand a revote! Farmgirl1961 Dec 2016 #30

This should be grounds for a lawsuit under the 14th and 15th amendments. BainsBane Dec 2016 #11

In Michigan... LovingA2andMI Dec 2016 #15

Seriously? SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #17

The right to vote BainsBane Dec 2016 #18

There is a right to have a vote counted SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #19

However, there is a right for the vote... LovingA2andMI Dec 2016 #33

The votes were counted SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #36

Aren't you for justice for Democratic voters? Kingofalldems Dec 2016 #38

Sure SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #41

Wrong... LovingA2andMI Dec 2016 #39

Never said they were only SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #42

WRONG.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2016 #43

Yes, you are wrong SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #45

Do you even read what you post LovingA2andMI ? MichMan Dec 2016 #46

Obviously, there is a problem with reading comprehension --- LovingA2andMI Dec 2016 #49

You would have to ask the elected officials in charge of those county elections MichMan Dec 2016 #51

Why do you keep omitting the important part ? MichMan Dec 2016 #52

Sounds like a Rick Give-em-Lead Snyder state law and what, exactly, does it say? wordpix Dec 2016 #65

No one can confirm this, then they weren't counted uponit7771 Dec 2016 #47

if you read the article, you would know they were counted but the voting machines are wordpix Dec 2016 #64

And here I thought every vote casted HAD TO BE COUNTED AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #20

That is not what is being done MichMan Dec 2016 #22

But when your vote has a 59% chance of being counted, there is something terribly wrong w election p AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #24

You are not paying attention MichMan Dec 2016 #26

Maybe if you review the reason WHY these votes were not recounted.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2016 #35

Headline is misleading; Votes have already been counted and that total will stand MichMan Dec 2016 #21

You're WRONG....Plain and Simple. LovingA2andMI Dec 2016 #37

You might need to read it yourself MichMan Dec 2016 #44

What if this was Waukesha Wisconsin forthemiddle Dec 2016 #58

Fucking crime against American citizenry. Crooked bullshit. Why would I ever want to fucking vote lonestarnot Dec 2016 #28

This is backwards. Eric J in MN Dec 2016 #29

I don't agree MichMan Dec 2016 #40

If a thousand people signed in but only 500 ballots were recorded Eric J in MN Dec 2016 #48

It appears that it may have been the other way around MichMan Dec 2016 #50

totally agree but these are DETROIT, Rick Snyder-Let-Them-Drink-Lead votes wordpix Dec 2016 #66

The U.S. plain and simple, sucks. We can't even elect our leaders honestly. C Moon Dec 2016 #34

Can we now please drop the myth that the US is a democratic country? DetlefK Dec 2016 #55

If the numbers don't match, there should be a complete audit of the vote in those 662 precincts. Vinca Dec 2016 #56

Exactly. If #'s are not matching up, there needs to be an automatic recount and audit. AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #57