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ehrnst

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2. I don't agree. Two white men dissing the "emerging Democratic majority"

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Fri Dec 9, 2016, 12:22 PM

Dec 2016

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doesn't sound very surprising though....

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Don't Stop Arguing, Complaining And Fighting *For* 'Identity Politics' [View all] ehrnst Dec 2016 OP

The Future of Racial Politics FarCenter Dec 2016 #1

I don't agree. Two white men dissing the "emerging Democratic majority" ehrnst Dec 2016 #2

So Only White Working Class People Matter THese Days? Me. Dec 2016 #3

The article is pointing out that there is a faction in the Democratic Party that thinks it is. (nt) ehrnst Dec 2016 #6

That's What It Sounded LIke To Me Me. Dec 2016 #12

Thank you! (nt) ehrnst Dec 2016 #16

No No No. Only White Working Class Men WhiteTara Dec 2016 #11

Geez Oh Pete Me. Dec 2016 #13

Fake news and alt-Reich attitudes? WhiteTara Dec 2016 #14

So Dems And Not A Dem Bernie Me. Dec 2016 #17

I am sickened by the whole affair. WhiteTara Dec 2016 #19

I think he means to include white working class in addition to identity groups yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #52

I think he meant what he said. WhiteTara Dec 2016 #55

I hope he doesn't mean that. yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #58

I don't think it is about families WhiteTara Dec 2016 #63

An approach to politics that pretends that racism, misogyny and bigotry don't affect policy is RedWedge Dec 2016 #4

Identity politics will make us the permanent minority party Taitertots Dec 2016 #5

Are you saying that inclusivity is reverse racism? (nt) ehrnst Dec 2016 #7

Diversity is messy SubjectiveLife78 Dec 2016 #8

Diversity is messy, and neccessary. Acknowledging that inclusiveness is necessary is vital. (nt) ehrnst Dec 2016 #10

What is diversity? SubjectiveLife78 Dec 2016 #47

If you have groups of people all needing the same thing ehrnst Dec 2016 #48

No, racism and tolerance is messy... diversity is beautiful and functional and diet racism uponit7771 Dec 2016 #67

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The KKK is the same as BLM? What? bettyellen Dec 2016 #20

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Your context being white supremacy equals civil rights? What a twisted view. Sick. bettyellen Dec 2016 #23

You're hallucinating if you think that. Taitertots Dec 2016 #24

You're of the opinion "inclusiveness" requires some sort of reverse racism. A big RW talking poin bettyellen Dec 2016 #25

+1000. (nt) ehrnst Dec 2016 #37

Now there's respectful discourse....(nt) ehrnst Dec 2016 #36

Do I hear the sound of someone's white cis male privilege being pointed out to them? (nt) ehrnst Dec 2016 #38

You really are reaching for an insult. SlimJimmy Dec 2016 #26

The fallacy is that WE are splitting people into groups when it's society that has historically done bettyellen Dec 2016 #27

OUR party has split these groups for political purposes. SlimJimmy Dec 2016 #28

No - society split these groups and Democrats acknowledge it. If that offends you ehrnst Dec 2016 #30

I've been on this board from nearly the beginning of this board, so back off. SlimJimmy Dec 2016 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Dec 2016 #33

"Back off?" You diss the coalitions that made this party strong ehrnst Dec 2016 #34

Sounds like someone doesn't understand that the party needs to move back to the SlimJimmy Dec 2016 #41

2005? That's not nearly the beginning. Unless you were tombstoned under another name. (nt) ehrnst Dec 2016 #39

Well, it's quite a long time. Long enough to take you to the woods over your SlimJimmy Dec 2016 #40

Threat? Maybe you are a bit too sensitive to be discussing things on any board....(nt) ehrnst Dec 2016 #44

I'm sorry, I should have said weak and worthless threat. SlimJimmy Dec 2016 #50

Look in the mirror. (nt) ehrnst Dec 2016 #57

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Straw man much? Some doberman.... ehrnst Dec 2016 #77

But 2004 melman Dec 2016 #73

When did I say someone should not be here? Please link. ehrnst Dec 2016 #78

To ignore that groups of people are treated fundamentally differently and worse ehrnst Dec 2016 #29

If we ignore divisions in favor of one point of view it disenfranchises folk el_bryanto Dec 2016 #31

Thank you. (nt) ehrnst Dec 2016 #35

It's the economy stupid. Remember that? That's what will make us winners again. SlimJimmy Dec 2016 #42

Winners at what cost? While I do believe the economic to be a key part of our message el_bryanto Dec 2016 #49

I disagree. When folks are employed in good paying jobs, lots of problems SlimJimmy Dec 2016 #51

When white men are employed in good paying jobs, you mean. If the discussion veers away from their ehrnst Dec 2016 #56

No, I mean ALL people. SlimJimmy Dec 2016 #62

Because that's such an easy thing to figure out, isn't it? ehrnst Dec 2016 #64

Insulting me through my DU inbox won't get your posting privileges restored. ehrnst Dec 2016 #81

Why can't we focus on things that we ALL share? Dave Starsky Dec 2016 #9

Some of us experience things that straight white cis men don't share, that prevent us ehrnst Dec 2016 #15

Thank you! bettyellen Dec 2016 #21

And finally, it's the economy, stupid. The one thing that makes a difference for ALL of us. SlimJimmy Dec 2016 #43

The economy works differently for different groups, "stupid." ehrnst Dec 2016 #45

You're like a little dog nipping at a doberman's heels. SlimJimmy Dec 2016 #53

Nip, nip. So what does a touchy "non-progressive Democrat" do on a progressive board like this? ehrnst Dec 2016 #54

It's NOT exclusively a "progressive" board. You might want to read the TOS. SlimJimmy Dec 2016 #59

I did. I just find it interesting that you like to diss progressive ideas. ehrnst Dec 2016 #76

You can be progressive and against identity politics.... jack_krass Dec 2016 #72

"Identity Politics" is "political correctness" or "All lives Matter!" for the Left. ehrnst Dec 2016 #75

lol Cha Dec 2016 #80

Some people can't handle messaging that doesn't specifically mention them... TCJ70 Dec 2016 #46

Are we winning elections with identity politics? That's the real question. jalan48 Dec 2016 #61

Can we win if we alienate all those pesky "identity groups?" That's the real question. (nt) ehrnst Dec 2016 #65

Are we currently winning? jalan48 Dec 2016 #66

Oversimplification. ehrnst Dec 2016 #79

Yes. I agree with what you say. I just want to see us win more elections. jalan48 Dec 2016 #82

I understand. Tell that to the die hard Jill Steiner or Bernie or Bust folks. ehrnst Dec 2016 #83

I don't know any to tell it to. jalan48 Dec 2016 #84

Yes. (nt) ehrnst Dec 2016 #85

Yes, we are ... if there's no cheating involved uponit7771 Dec 2016 #68

Ok-no need for change then. All's good. jalan48 Dec 2016 #71

After this, therefor because of this? That's the real fallacy... LanternWaste Dec 2016 #69

Pretzel logic. jalan48 Dec 2016 #70

That was not a post hoc fallacy by any means. janx Dec 2016 #74