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hfojvt

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23. I cannot even figure what the formula is
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 04:59 AM
Dec 2016

Is it taxable over $25,000 or taxable over $34.000?

How much is taxable? The smaller of A) .85 times SSB OR B) (smaller of SSB/2 or $4,500) + .85(AGI- SSB/2 - $34,000)

would seem that at most only the amount over $34,000 taxed at $4,500 + .85(SSB/2)

Now the maximum social security benefit is $2,687 per month or $32,244 per year. So the most that would be taxable is $18,203. Meaning this person ALREADY has over $14,000 in tax free income. Plus if this person is over 65 they get an extra $1,550 deduction that a younger person with the same (or lower) income does not get.

At most the taxes on that amount would be $2,730. And this for a person making over $66,000 a year.

My last paycheck of the year says that my gross pay was $17,572 for approximately 1,145 hours of work although actually I made $1,023 for vacation days, $304 for sick days, $663 for holidays and got longevity pay of $282.5 so it was only about 1,015 hours of work. But also $1,325 was taken out of my checks for FICA and $1,054 for my pension (and I put another $6,500 in my Roth IRA to reduce my income taxes to zero - it's either that or pay $600 in FIT (actually I only need about $2,000 in my Roth to get down to zero)

So anyway, a retired person making upwards of $60,000 a year seems pretty well off to me, and I don't think they need another tax shelter on top of the $14,000 which is already tax free.

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Done and rec. OregonBlue Dec 2016 #1
Thanks red dog 1 Dec 2016 #7
No joy in the coming years. riversedge Dec 2016 #2
who in the F**K is this asshole. People have being paying into Social Security and Medicare, and th still_one Dec 2016 #3
As I posted down thread.. republicons get SS too.. I hope Cha Dec 2016 #22
THANKS TRUMP VOTERS Skittles Dec 2016 #4
One thing I agree with is eliminating the tax on SS benefits. For a single person doc03 Dec 2016 #5
How about just raise the index amount edhopper Dec 2016 #6
I would be fine with that, if it had been indexed for inflation back in doc03 Dec 2016 #8
I cannot even figure what the formula is hfojvt Dec 2016 #23
I am not going to spend an hour going thru my tax returns to explain it. Anyway doc03 Dec 2016 #40
a tax is not really a penalty hfojvt Dec 2016 #41
So I guess I am filthy rich, thanks. Why are you defending means testing, that is what that is? doc03 Dec 2016 #42
again, it has ZERO to do with how rich or poor you are hfojvt Dec 2016 #46
Your obtuse reply doesn't even deserve a response have a nice Christmas comrade. doc03 Dec 2016 #47
Just because something is introduced doesn't mean duffyduff Dec 2016 #9
Exactly right duffy Johnyawl Dec 2016 #16
Depends on who's paying attention. Miles Archer Dec 2016 #30
I'll never understand why Ryan is so obsessed with cutting S.S. maddiemom Dec 2016 #34
Ayn Rand. Miles Archer Dec 2016 #35
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Republicons get SS too.. I hope they scream their damn brainwashed Cha Dec 2016 #21
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