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26. I think the definition of VPN should be explained a little more clearly
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 08:43 PM
Feb 2017

It's purpose is to tunnel from one location to another, encrypting information between a host and your machine. That's it. That's all.

It's primary use in name is Point To Point Tunneling Protocol (PPTP), making your remote machine local to some other network, thus Virtual Private Network: your machine is local to the VPN host's network and your operating system will use two IP addresses to accomplish that communication.

Now, the communication beyond that host to other Internet addresses would still be dependent on that outside host, so DU for instance would be unencrypted HTTP. Again, tunneling and encryption is dependent upon destination. DU is over HTTP not HTTPS, so the VPN host cannot force that. Your host's only responsibility is for encrypting communication from your device and the VPN host.

The masking portion they talk about is for giving the appearance that whatever Internet activity you are doing is sourced back to them, not you. You're IP is masked, but all your activity is absolutely logged on their system. It has to be in order for your requested traffic to be destined back to your machine and decrypted on the fly. It's only anonymous to everyone but your VPN host.

Also, the encryption encapsulation of Internet packets, your browser activity for instance, causes about twice the Internet bandwidth overhead as none encrypted packets, so all your VPN activity's performance is about cut in half. This would basically be true of other encrypting technologies as well. The VPN would also have added Internet latency for traffic to always be routed through some other third party's physical geographical location, to and from, instead of simply following the Internet's quickest route to and from you and some Internet site. Thus, downloads will take noticeably longer and the overall experience will feel somewhat sluggish compared to what most of you would be accustomed to.

And some sites might be aware of your VPN host's WAN address and deny your requested Internet activity. I think this would be site dependent.

As handy and cool as it might seem to perform such activity using someone else's IP address, I would not recommend any of you do your online banking through a third party VPN service, such as these. It's always safer to use HTTPS directly to and from those sites using a machine you trust as being virus and malware free.

I just don't want people to think it's a free lunch with no downsides.

Indeed. drray23 Feb 2017 #1
Does TOR work on this site? bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #2
TOR and paid VPNs can work together. politicat Feb 2017 #4
Which countries have the strongest privacy laws? suegeo Feb 2017 #32
We use a very highly rated paid VPN dixiegrrrrl Feb 2017 #11
Thanks- I'll look into those bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #12
Thinking about it... physioex Feb 2017 #3
Good news -- LastPass is great for that. Bad news... it's never fun to lose a device. politicat Feb 2017 #6
Two Factor Authentication is a nightmare unless you have multiple devices NoGoodNamesLeft Feb 2017 #5
There are strategies around it. politicat Feb 2017 #7
Trust me on this NoGoodNamesLeft Feb 2017 #9
And that's your choice. politicat Feb 2017 #13
All I know is that at least 25% of the calls I take NoGoodNamesLeft Feb 2017 #15
Again, that's your choice. politicat Feb 2017 #21
My point is...no one should enable Apple's Two Factor Authentication UNLESS NoGoodNamesLeft Feb 2017 #25
If you don't have text messaging on your stupid phone, what's the best 2-factor option? n/t TygrBright Feb 2017 #8
There are free texting apps available on Apple and Google Play. nt bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #10
Will they run on a Windows 7 machine? n/t TygrBright Feb 2017 #17
Text Now seems to work on pcs bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #20
I prefer Win7, so I'll have to find something that works with that. Thanks! TygrBright Feb 2017 #24
Authy -- it's a chrome app politicat Feb 2017 #14
That looks fairly do-able, thanks. n/t TygrBright Feb 2017 #18
Check with your service to see if they offer an RSA token n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2017 #19
The Opera browser has a free VPN; also ad blocking built in. hunter Feb 2017 #16
I've always wondered about Opera's VPN service bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #22
And it sounds like you've made a reasoned choice that works for you. politicat Feb 2017 #23
My wife and my brother-in-law both work with HIPPA files. hunter Feb 2017 #30
I just read up on Opera's VPN bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #33
"Browser VPN" is honest enough. hunter Feb 2017 #34
I think the definition of VPN should be explained a little more clearly ffr Feb 2017 #26
All the encryption and personal security measures in the world mean nothing if EvolveOrConvolve Feb 2017 #27
63 million reds would gave their okay to taking away those liberties too. ffr Feb 2017 #28
In the spirit of the OP, back up files twice with one copy off-site. Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #29
Suggest downloading Tails or Arch Linux Best_man23 Feb 2017 #31
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