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guillaumeb

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28. Agreed on the power component.

Reply to bravenak (Reply #26)

Sun Feb 26, 2017, 06:48 PM

Feb 2017

But for far too long, the GOP has been allowed to frame the debate, and the acceptable limits of thought. One way to win is to open that debate. And the way to do that is to make the argument in public that the country does not have a wealth problem, it has an inequality problem.

Another aspect is that as unions have weakened, wages have fallen. So Democrats must address all facets of the problem.

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After Trumps immigration order, anxiety grows in Floridas vegetable fields [View all] DonCoquixote Feb 2017 OP

There is a simple solution for these farmers: guillaumeb Feb 2017 #1

They cannot afford that bravenak Feb 2017 #2

If any business cannot offer a living wage to its employees, guillaumeb Feb 2017 #9

Then food prices would triple harming the poor who already dont get enough veggies. bravenak Feb 2017 #10

And as I pointed out: guillaumeb Feb 2017 #21

If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas. bravenak Feb 2017 #24

No, but by conceding the wage argument, or failing to make the case to workers guillaumeb Feb 2017 #25

There are too many factors that would need to be involved and perfect conditions as well as bravenak Feb 2017 #26

Agreed on the power component. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #28

They frame it because we refuse to stick together bravenak Feb 2017 #29

True. But the Party is not a parliamentary style party, where adherence guillaumeb Feb 2017 #31

Large companies that can afford machines to pick fruit and vegetables Blue_true Feb 2017 #18

What can be picked by machine is picked by machine on factory farms. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #22

Bet they would be hard pressed to find American snowflakes even at $20/hr dhol82 Feb 2017 #3

I would take that bet. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #11

then you better present one DonCoquixote Feb 2017 #17

One alternative is the collective model. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #23

The work is piece work, fast pickers can make $15-$25 per hour. Blue_true Feb 2017 #19

Not likely NoGoodNamesLeft Feb 2017 #4

If one will even be able to find it in a grocery store. roamer65 Feb 2017 #5

But Florida voted for Trump. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #12

I really don't think that is true. It's what they say happened. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2017 #32

Trump is a moron. But have you walked down Blue_true Feb 2017 #20

They'd last about 4 hours and then quit. Happens all the sinkingfeeling Feb 2017 #6

I live in corn country. murielm99 Feb 2017 #7

So Americans are unable to work hard? guillaumeb Feb 2017 #13

Farmer in the article says it's $15 to $20 an hour pay sinkingfeeling Feb 2017 #15

Part of the problem is, where is the work located, and is their transportation guillaumeb Feb 2017 #16

I'm a GM for a medium size contracting firm IdiotsforPalin Feb 2017 #30

I am a former landlord Motownman78 Feb 2017 #34

Maybe silver lining down the road if working conditions improve lostnfound Feb 2017 #8

repube pissing on America's food chain is yuuge dumb disaster! Achilleaze Feb 2017 #14

I'm waiting for the Trumpistans to get out and pull their own weight... Historic NY Feb 2017 #27

The Hispanic families I work with phylny Feb 2017 #33

I agree Motownman78 Feb 2017 #35