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defacto7

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73. Speculation #5000

Wed Mar 15, 2017, 08:23 PM

Mar 2017

What if the clandestine information cuts in every direction?
Why was Comey so blatantly forthright with false information that would stop Hillary's bid for the presidency? That was too visible of a move for any secret service or investigative agency. One might think it was stupid... I don’t think it could possibly have been a mistake.. probably it was a frantic move under duress from whatever power was pushing the buttons.
What if this secret would not only destroy Trump but Obama would be threatened with... whatever? And maybe it would undercut Right and Left in the house and Senate. That would definitely topple the government and would explain the smug nature of Bannon who wants just that.
Maybe all that's left is a quiet careful power struggle to keep the country from utter chaos and to create the facade of some sort of normalcy. It could also explain the rise of the neo-fascists, a struggle for position.
If covering the ugly is what they are trying to do, they're not doing very well.

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Feinstein and Grassley grim and silent after Trump-Russia briefings with Comey [View all] Miles Archer Mar 2017 OP

Somethings wrong, very wrong.... Historic NY Mar 2017 #1

This is a bit frightening. Greybnk48 Mar 2017 #6

I wonder if we can ever TRUST what he said....n/t dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #78

Somethings wrong, very wrong.... LenaBaby61 Mar 2017 #15

Yes, they have been shown the video of Trump's golden showers. Doodley Mar 2017 #113

LOL, that would do it, though throwing up might be a more probable reaction still_one Mar 2017 #130

You owe me a new keyboard nolabels Mar 2017 #156

Watched the video twice, GrAssLey looked smug... 4139 Mar 2017 #16

I don't think he looked smug, that just how he looks. He did not look happy. Hamlette Mar 2017 #34

I have to agree with you. This is ugly, and it's gonna leave a mark. lindysalsagal Mar 2017 #45

Pee,Pee too.. coco22 Mar 2017 #60

I've read this whole thread so far... druidity33 Mar 2017 #43

When I heard Grassley was holding off on.. coco22 Mar 2017 #59

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And lots of bodies everywhere... CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2017 #4

Yes, they do Hekate Mar 2017 #7

First two assumptions are... Miles Archer Mar 2017 #8

First two assumptions are... LenaBaby61 Mar 2017 #24

Very true...he would have been fighting back a smirk. Miles Archer Mar 2017 #26

I think both assumptions are poor angrychair Mar 2017 #102

If this were the case wouldn't she be Angry, not funereal? Kablooie Mar 2017 #163

And a stinking corpse dalton99a Mar 2017 #9

wow...what the hell? Is this the time for the big stone to finally drop? NRaleighLiberal Mar 2017 #3

if it was nothing RussBLib Mar 2017 #5

It's between "We're fucked" and "We've lost our country" dalton99a Mar 2017 #12

That looks to be the size of it. GliderGuider Mar 2017 #39

Agreed. n/t. lindysalsagal Mar 2017 #46

Will we be able to recover? cilla4progress Mar 2017 #127

Well, that depends on what exactly is behind Door #2 GliderGuider Mar 2017 #158

We lost our country the year that Fux Nooze became the number one watch channel mdbl Mar 2017 #47

Hard to say Miles Archer Mar 2017 #13

She looks & sounds as she did announcing Moscoe and Milk had been murdered, and remember mulsh Mar 2017 #38

DAYUM, mulch, I just thought that, too, when I watched this video. calimary Mar 2017 #64

My thoughts too. I lived in the East Bay (long after the actual event) but we won't ever forget anneboleyn Mar 2017 #159

"I'm sorry, but it's the way life is here right now" StarryNite Mar 2017 #71

This was the money quote for me. Tatiana Mar 2017 #93

Weird bdamomma Mar 2017 #101

Yeah, I watched it several times and both are clearly rattled... Blue_Roses Mar 2017 #143

DiFi looked like she did after Mayor Moscone and Harvey Milk were murdered melody Mar 2017 #161

Revelations that the Russians played both sides metalbot Mar 2017 #20

naa, I think Diane would be freaked even if it is just against Trump Hamlette Mar 2017 #35

Agree. She's not super partisan. She's glum because it's very serious and she knows it's wiggs Mar 2017 #44

To a lover of our country losing it to Russia does dem4decades Mar 2017 #103

Feinstein could look glum if Comey said there is nothing there OliverQ Mar 2017 #40

Watch Rachel Maddow's Monday segment underthematrix Mar 2017 #80

Grassley, knowing what he does is still going along with the Trump/Republican agenda. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #10

Grassley is the Chair that held up Pres. Obama's Supreme court nomination. He is smug fool. riversedge Mar 2017 #31

you're too nice mdbl Mar 2017 #48

They look defeated crappyjazz Mar 2017 #11

There be traitors in our midst. MoonRiver Mar 2017 #14

What the F is going on? Control-Z Mar 2017 #17

Sorry, I can't tell you that. GliderGuider Mar 2017 #41

Agreed. Going on record: This day will be remembered as "Before we knew." lindysalsagal Mar 2017 #49

"Beware the Ides of March..." nt GliderGuider Mar 2017 #51

+1 nt flying rabbit Mar 2017 #100

That is what it looks like. warmfeet Mar 2017 #56

maybe comey threatened DiFi/Grassley with prison if they kept on after trump msongs Mar 2017 #18

are they being threatened with death threats? bdamomma Mar 2017 #105

not to be dark...but if evidence suggest a close relationship between trump and beachbum bob Mar 2017 #19

The number of people involved may nocalflea Mar 2017 #22

I think you nailed it.... think "Vast" pfitz59 Mar 2017 #141

The dossier suggests this exact thing Renew Deal Mar 2017 #32

Looks like Trumpy is about to get outed. jalan48 Mar 2017 #21

I think Grassley had his poker face on coeur_de_lion Mar 2017 #23

I know that the wheels grind slowly and that I should be patient, but, panader0 Mar 2017 #25

Have Pelosi and Schumer made statements since? lindysalsagal Mar 2017 #53

would trump be privey to the same intel.? juxtaposed Mar 2017 #27

I saw it. It was strange. Renew Deal Mar 2017 #28

This is a brilliant point. Also McCain saying that Rand works for the Russians today! bronxiteforever Mar 2017 #68

And Graham and Whithouse Renew Deal Mar 2017 #69

Has Rand ever made any trips to Moscow that we're aware of? DangerousRhythm Mar 2017 #162

When has listening to Comey... yallerdawg Mar 2017 #29

somebody better fucking spill. and soon. mopinko Mar 2017 #30

Yep. We better get something for all the money we spend and privacy we give up to the NSA. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2017 #55

Just a feeling, but ... PsychoBabble Mar 2017 #33

Have to imagine if Rudy Giuliani was interviewed you could tell by his smug face ffr Mar 2017 #36

Comey Briefings Thomas Hurt Mar 2017 #37

It is easy for me to believe that a pathological narcissist like DT could be a traitor pnwmom Mar 2017 #54

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You don't think Trump is a traitor? milestogo Mar 2017 #90

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The gang of 8 and the top of the IC may know the whole truth. But even if wiggs Mar 2017 #42

Don't forget what this could do to global markets. GliderGuider Mar 2017 #50

Exactly. Decisions are being made. lindysalsagal Mar 2017 #62

I also went thru same process. IMO, it'll be rolling resignations or impeachment/removals... KittyWampus Mar 2017 #72

wiggs .... LenaBaby61 Mar 2017 #138

In 2000 Gore could have probably gone to the mat and rallied for wiggs Mar 2017 #149

If you think that Trump will voluntarily resign.... Feathery Scout Mar 2017 #148

My worry, comey has a lot a lot of stuff on dump but can't prove any of it! Thekaspervote Mar 2017 #52

The fbi can prove anything, even sh&% that never happened.,.... lindysalsagal Mar 2017 #65

They couldn't look more grim if a giant asteroid was about to hit the planet. nt Ilsa Mar 2017 #57

This much is completely obvious. Stonepounder Mar 2017 #58

Hmmm. That could mean anything. Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #61

My guess: Feinstein now knows we are at war with Russia delisen Mar 2017 #66

Maybe bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #81

Columnists? milestogo Mar 2017 #86

Thanks I've corrected. delisen Mar 2017 #95

Actually milestogo Mar 2017 #97

" 5th Column" sounded very familiar but... WePurrsevere Mar 2017 #150

What worries me.... Feathery Scout Mar 2017 #67

I think they have found out Mr.Bill Mar 2017 #70

Whoa, I never even thought about that. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #74

THIS bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #75

I bet they didn't know where I kept my home grown stashed! nolabels Mar 2017 #157

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That sounds quite plausible... 2naSalit Mar 2017 #91

Just one question bdamomma Mar 2017 #109

It's supposed to be a PUBLIC hearing with House Intel Committee Monday. hedda_foil Mar 2017 #126

not possible. drray23 Mar 2017 #115

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Speculation #5000 defacto7 Mar 2017 #73

Speculation #5001 defacto7 Mar 2017 #107

Good Lord, DiFi looks like she just heard her entire family died. Tatiana Mar 2017 #76

did they find something did they not find anything? Its a cliffhanger!! samnsara Mar 2017 #77

thats an 'oooooooohhhhhh fffff**********ck" look if i have ever seen one! samnsara Mar 2017 #79

F**K them all. They all knew about this before the election, Harry Reid said as much in October, still_one Mar 2017 #82

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She doesn't look good at all. bdamomma Mar 2017 #114

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another scary question I have bdamomma Mar 2017 #142

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WHEN IS IT OUR BUSINESS TO KNOW WTF IS GOING ON??? milestogo Mar 2017 #85

Yeah, good question! StarryNite Mar 2017 #88

+1000 Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2017 #112

Honestly Grassley looks like he cannot speak. Feinstein probably said, I will speak for us Justice Mar 2017 #87

If it is this serious, and trump colluded with the Russians to subvert our election, then by the still_one Mar 2017 #89

Comey probably told them elmac Mar 2017 #92

If seven dead so far mean anything, it can't look good for Trump's team. ancianita Mar 2017 #94

I thought it was eight now but yes not looking too good for them lunasun Mar 2017 #125

Yeah, I'm probably not keeping up. ancianita Mar 2017 #146

I'm seeing something different than everyone else. LibraLiz1973 Mar 2017 #96

That's my read as well BannonsLiver Mar 2017 #129

My read (where's Dr. Phil?) Juliusseizure Mar 2017 #98

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If what they know is not released to the public kacekwl Mar 2017 #104

Hillary won the election in a landslide... cbdo2007 Mar 2017 #106

They found over 200,000 votes for HRC in three of the red states she lost by less than 80,000. nikibatts Mar 2017 #108

i like this theory... nt TheFrenchRazor Mar 2017 #111

I hope it's not related to nuclear bombs Ezior Mar 2017 #110

Who were all the attendees at the briefing? By name, if anyone can? nt LAS14 Mar 2017 #116

It looks scary, and it's just not fair that we are kept in the dark mvd Mar 2017 #117

K&R bdamomma Mar 2017 #118

Remember in the dossier it was all about blackmail. Not sure what Russia would Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2017 #119

What did he tell them? kentuck Mar 2017 #121

Yes, yes, yes, and yes. fleur-de-lisa Mar 2017 #155

And hours later nobody has leaked a word eleny Mar 2017 #122

... Catherine Vincent Mar 2017 #123

When both teams look defeated... MedusaX Mar 2017 #124

I suppose whoever comes out of this relatively unscathed has a good chance... Rollo Mar 2017 #128

This is not good. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #131

Sounds good to me if true Juliusseizure Mar 2017 #139

He thinks he's Icarus, he doesn't believe his wings will melt if he flies too close to the sun Miles Archer Mar 2017 #140

K&R. dchill Mar 2017 #132

Maybe it was "How do we remove them from power without backlash?" hollowdweller Mar 2017 #133

My money goes on this. Scruffy1 Mar 2017 #134

I've seen too many politicians come out of closed door defacto7 Mar 2017 #136

Feinstein IS 83... dooner Mar 2017 #137

I don't know if there is a longer clip, LuvLoogie Mar 2017 #144

Regarding the tea leaf reading of the body language here. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2017 #147

Question: if the FBI has proof of collusion/treason... Satch59 Mar 2017 #151

Any actual charges would have to be filed via the DOJ. The FBI can't directly charge/indict. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2017 #152

Thanks for the clarification... Satch59 Mar 2017 #153

Spicer was acting more looney than usual today TNLib Mar 2017 #160

The one thing I expect is that none of our guesses are correct. Kablooie Mar 2017 #164