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longship

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38. I will believe it when I see it.

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 02:24 PM

Mar 2017

People tend to overestimate future trends in the short term, and underestimate them in the long term, the latter mostly on unforeseen emerging technologies.

Autonomous vehicle advocates remind me an awful lot about that utter kook, Ray Kurzweil and his Singularity rubbish, although I must admit that at least autonomous vehicles are plausible. Nevertheless, both Kurzweil kooks and autonomous vehicle advocates make the same mistake, extrapolation on past data, always a dangerous thing.

My argument is that autonomous vehicles are not, and will not be practical any time soon. Where I live, I don't want one of them anywhere near me.

First, drive the fucking Grapevine, or any other of the numerous mountain passes, before you advocate that vehicles be driverless. I want intelligence, not algorithms behind the wheel!

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Automakers are slowing their self-driving car plans and that could be a good thing [View all] FrodosNewPet Mar 2017 OP

Take all the time you need, please Ezior Mar 2017 #1

I'll give them till next winter... Rhiannon12866 Mar 2017 #2

Will be great when all human drivers are off the road. The sooner the better. (nt) bekkilyn Mar 2017 #3

Even if the SDCs are not ready? FrodosNewPet Mar 2017 #4

Shouldn't take anywhere near that long bekkilyn Mar 2017 #6

You're kidding with this right? Have you ever driven a car in the Northeast? brush Mar 2017 #31

Nope, not kidding bekkilyn Mar 2017 #34

Didn't think so. The industry isn't even close to solving negative cold weather effects... brush Mar 2017 #36

I believe remaining issues will be resolved sooner rather than later. (nt) bekkilyn Mar 2017 #39

And you know more than the automakers who say driver-less cars are 30-40 years away? brush Mar 2017 #50

The article didn't state ALL automakers bekkilyn Mar 2017 #51

Just curious, do you even own a car and actually drive it? brush Mar 2017 #54

Yes, for decades (nt) bekkilyn Mar 2017 #56

Would be nice if bicycles could be programmed in a similar manner... Henry Krinkle Mar 2017 #37

Watch this video: Alex4Martinez Mar 2017 #41

Ohhhh! I LOVE IT!! (nt) bekkilyn Mar 2017 #44

This deserves a cross post to Video & Multimedia. littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #45

Hi! Pretty funny, right? Alex4Martinez Mar 2017 #49

April 1st is still 10 days away... Henry Krinkle Mar 2017 #46

Oh no, now they will have to wait safeinOhio Mar 2017 #5

And driving school instructors dalton99a Mar 2017 #7

You are correct. safeinOhio Mar 2017 #9

True but I like the idea that disabled will not be stuck at home all day yeoman6987 Mar 2017 #10

Agreed bekkilyn Mar 2017 #11

Bingo! Post of the week!!!! yeoman6987 Mar 2017 #13

"rather than just throwing them out to fend for themselves" HughBeaumont Mar 2017 #20

Unintended consequences: More trips taken, but mostly by rich kids. Alex4Martinez Mar 2017 #47

Where I live there are buses for disabled and seniors run by the town that take them to doctors KittyWampus Mar 2017 #17

That exists, but where I live (Boston area), the service openly says it's not designed mythology Mar 2017 #57

Lots of us don't have practical public transportation options other than cars bekkilyn Mar 2017 #58

And that's why we need to re-engineer society for the future and not just keep status quo KittyWampus Mar 2017 #61

I am in FULL agreement with you here! bekkilyn Mar 2017 #62

I just hope it is in my lifetime. I am 40 now mvd Mar 2017 #8

We could make the effort to re-engineer society to not need individual cars... KittyWampus Mar 2017 #12

It would be nice if we had fast speed trains everywhere but the expense is prohibited yeoman6987 Mar 2017 #14

Rightwing talking point which I'm sick of hearing. We re-engineered society almost 100 years ago. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #16

Sounds like you will lose out. Self driving cars are the future yeoman6987 Mar 2017 #18

Hence, the GOPs desire to see Amtrak succeed and the massive increase to the FRA budget? LanternWaste Mar 2017 #29

More accurately, "the collective will is prohibitive..." LanternWaste Mar 2017 #27

Maybe once there is more automation bekkilyn Mar 2017 #15

You're obviously just not a car person Calculating Mar 2017 #23

I'm definitely not a car person bekkilyn Mar 2017 #28

I'm responding to my own post, but bekkilyn Mar 2017 #32

We do tend to invest our emotions into things if the commercial branding was successful LanternWaste Mar 2017 #30

Condescending much? Idoru Mar 2017 #48

I wish they would re-think transportation completely. We've just spent too much on infastructure. NCTraveler Mar 2017 #19

I think you stated that very well. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #21

+++++++++++ JHan Mar 2017 #40

Honestly Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2017 #22

What happens when the computer needs to make a judgment call? Calculating Mar 2017 #24

Once the remaining issues are worked out bekkilyn Mar 2017 #25

Try a semi truck traversing the Grapevine, the scariest drive in SoCal. longship Mar 2017 #33

Traffic patterns will change with more automation bekkilyn Mar 2017 #35

I will believe it when I see it. longship Mar 2017 #38

Many of our advances in science and technology bekkilyn Mar 2017 #43

5 Things That Give Self-Driving Cars Headaches FrodosNewPet Mar 2017 #53

Asked in 1922: Should automakers release automobiles before they're fully safe LanternWaste Mar 2017 #26

Radar and sensors can be notoriously finicky DeminPennswoods Mar 2017 #42

In the meantime, make cars that have the sensors, and use them to learn. Thor_MN Mar 2017 #52

Tesla will do it in the next 2 years, they are way ahead of the competition n/t Mr. Sparkle Mar 2017 #55

Two things are not ready for self driving cars- Americas Roads and Courts Lee-Lee Mar 2017 #59

IMO, when it's 70% unemployment who will buy cars??? CK_John Mar 2017 #60