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In reply to the discussion: "No more dynasties"--for women, that is [View all]Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Nobody is diminishing the importance of that.
And we will, and sooner rather than later. It's simply inevitable.
(I doubt we could have said that about the possibility of electing a black president had Obama been stopped in 2008. I can't imagine any black person ever seeking the office again if HRC had narrowly won the nomination at the last instant.)
It was just the insistence that the first woman we nominated HAD to be HRC.
Why DID it have to be HRC, btw? What was so special about her compared to any other woman who might have run?
A lot of people who didn't support HRC would have supported Elizabeth Warren, and were begging her to run(Bernie actually wanted Warren to run first). Why, to your mind, would she have been less acceptable as the first female nominee than HRC?
In my experience was the stands on the issues HRC took-particularly on continuing to use force in the Arab/Muslim world and on trade-that drove a large chunk of progressives away from her-and among the Sanders supporters I knew, those stands would have been held against any male candidate. In addition to the issues, it was about not wanting a "ruling families" election-remember, in the fall of 2015, it looked like we might end up with a HRC-JEB! contest. There's nothing sexist about being uncomfortable about that-especially since it's likely that, had we had a race like that, we might have been looking at decades of nothing but Clinton-Bush races in the fall.
There were some people who claimed to be Bernie supporters(online, you really can't tell for sure who is actually who and whether a person who says they support a particular candidate actually does so-and it turned out later that some of the "bros" were actually right-wing trolls who just showed up here to be shit-disturbers)who said horrible things and I condemn any actual Sanders people who were driven by sexism-that was never what Bernie wanted the campaign to be about and it didn't define the Sanders phenomenon.