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Tom Rinaldo

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121. If I had sock puppet friends, or trustworthy colborators, I could fill up threads like this one

Reply to WomenRising2017 (Original post)

Fri Apr 14, 2017, 06:42 AM

Apr 2017

ME: "You know, I looked it up. Bernie Sanders is from one of the smallest states in the nation".

Not ME#1: "I'm glad you pointed that out, I had forgotten how marginal a state Vermont is."

Not ME #2: "I'm not sure if "marginal" is the right word. But it is unusually White."

Not Me #1: "Wow. I just looked at the census data and you're right!"

ME: "Do you think that has anything to do with why Bernie gets high approval ratings there?

Not ME#2: "It's possible. There's also a lot of rural gun owners in Vermont, that could explain it"

Not ME#1: "Wow, I hadn't thought of that. Usually people like that support Republicans"

Not ME#2: "I don't think it's fair to suggest that Bernie is a Republican. But it does suggest that he
must hold some views they agree with strongly.

ME: "Well if Bernie was only willing to run there as a proud Democrat instead that would clarify whose
side he is really on".

Not ME#2 "Bernie isn't a Republican plant, but sometimes the way he keeps attacking Democrats makes him just as good as one".

Not ME#1 "It's terrible how Bernie always seems so eager to attack a Democrat, but he only calls Trump a pathological liar who is endangering the lives of millions to give tax breaks to the oligarchy."

Me: "Yes, when what we really need now is unity to stop Trump from endangering the lives of millions to give tax breaks to the oligarchy. Bernie has to stop obsessing about his own petty ego and do something to actually help people instead"

Not ME#2: "I think Bernie Sanders takes votes away from the Democratic Party by making Democrats vote for him as an Independent instead of as a Democrat."

Not ME#1: "Exactly. We don't need Democratic voters with so little loyalty to our Party. They should just register as Republicans and stop all the pretending."

Me: "Good point. Then we could finally unify the Democratic Party so that we can beat the Republicans."

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Is Bernie Sanders fighting for the Democratic Party? [View all] WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 OP

No, he is fighting for the USA! JoeOtterbein Apr 2017 #1

How is keeping Republicans in office good for the USA? WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #2

I think he is keeping the issues we care wasupaloopa Apr 2017 #13

That's an interesting user name you have there ismnotwasm Apr 2017 #17

I was upaloopa before the site shut down. wasupaloopa Apr 2017 #23

That explains it! ismnotwasm Apr 2017 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author JoeOtterbein Apr 2017 #47

How is speaking with Democrats and backing them for office Warpy Apr 2017 #37

I think he's made it quite clear that he wants a "third" party. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #44

People who confine their reading to anti Sanders sites Warpy Apr 2017 #46

Nice dig. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #52

Post falsehoods, you will be answered. Warpy Apr 2017 #56

What falsehoods have I posted? WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Apr 2017 #109

It is very clear now that Bernie is working to divide the democratic party Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #151

Sanders discourages third-party votes: 'Not the time for a protest vote' Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #208

He did last year BainsBane Apr 2017 #242

You got credible stuff he is for it? Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #244

I made no claims BainsBane Apr 2017 #245

He ain't part of it Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #247

Sadly, Bernie and Thom dont work for who they say they do. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #292

Please post a link where Bernie Sanders "clearly" wants a third party riderinthestorm Apr 2017 #221

Draft Bernie clearly uses his name to advocate R B Garr Apr 2017 #257

The idiots on the JPR site want a third party Gothmog Apr 2017 #61

I suspect many Jackpine Deplorables never voted for a Democrat. oasis Apr 2017 #79

I would not take that bet Gothmog Apr 2017 #184

I've voted D since Jimmy Carter a year after I graduated from High School Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #202

My first vote for POTUS was also Jimmy Carter Gothmog Apr 2017 #229

Again if Hillary DUers had not had the nasty behavior at their site JPR would not even exist Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #230

Have you read the other posts on that site? Gothmog Apr 2017 #235

They only post Kremlin propaganda BainsBane Apr 2017 #238

The explanation for the existence of the JPR website does not make sense to me either Gothmog Apr 2017 #239

It's purpose was to defeat Hillary BainsBane Apr 2017 #241

What pro-Trump Putin Russia stuff? Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #248

You may want to read the greatest page occassionally Gothmog Apr 2017 #256

are you saying there is no political purpose for the site? BainsBane Apr 2017 #237

Here are some additional pro russian JPR threads Gothmog Apr 2017 #259

JPR was the sanctuary for the vast majority over there who refused to vote for Hillary in the still_one Apr 2017 #271

OS on John Lewis Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:50 AM Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #251

And yet there has been numerous threads on JPR thrashing Congressman Lewis Gothmog Apr 2017 #255

Do you see me posting much outside LBN or my room on JPR? Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #262

No one really cares about your posts on JPR Gothmog Apr 2017 #268

No, Hillary supporters didn't jump start JPR. Some supporters formed a pro-Hillary site pnwmom Apr 2017 #240

I visited the other boards just to be among posters who were not attacking Hillary Clinton Gothmog Apr 2017 #269

Thanks for setting the record straight pnwmom sheshe2 Apr 2017 #270

Someone's feelings were hurt Gothmog Apr 2017 #272

Owning up to the minor role they played in putting Trump in power oasis Apr 2017 #273

I've wondered how many over there are Russian trolls. Warpy Apr 2017 #201

There are clearly a number of russian trolls on that site Gothmog Apr 2017 #236

There is a group that wants to radically change the Democratic Party tavalon Apr 2017 #62

You know what? Cary Apr 2017 #140

Well stated. LisaM Apr 2017 #153

I think we have had paid Russian trolls whipping up the less intelligent amongst us Cary Apr 2017 #161

Very well said. nt stevenleser Apr 2017 #156

Thank you, Cary! NurseJackie Apr 2017 #159

+1000! mcar Apr 2017 #163

+1,000,000 synergie Apr 2017 #171

Thank you! SunSeeker Apr 2017 #177

RIGHT ON. I don't care where they get their $$ from as long as they continue to represent me trueblue2007 Apr 2017 #188

Oh, I don't like it Cary Apr 2017 #190

Bernie wants Democrats to start acting like Democrats. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2017 #90

That's a specious statement. How would Bernie know how Democrats should act? BlueCaliDem Apr 2017 #112

he has never been one. he needs to stop telling us how to act unless he wants to trueblue2007 Apr 2017 #189

Precisely. Democratic values means working for the benefit of the people, period. JudyM Apr 2017 #178

How is Bernie keeping Republicans in office? JoeOtterbein Apr 2017 #50

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #55

By creating 3rd party votes and in some cases by Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #152

It isn't good for our country. we need to REMOVE REPUBLICANS --- not allow them to win elections. trueblue2007 Apr 2017 #187

Vote Democratic! Cary Apr 2017 #191

And I take it from you answer that he and some of his supporters WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #4

Aggreed , It would be great if the kacekwl Apr 2017 #136

Another Bernie basher, how original Luciferous Apr 2017 #3

It's a question, not a bash. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #6

Some fashions are worthwhile. randome Apr 2017 #7

BS called the Democratic Party "feeble" and "can't fight back" on RMS.. Cha Apr 2017 #89

Thanks for the link, Cha DesertRat Apr 2017 #100

Mahalo, DesertRat! Cha Apr 2017 #108

No. nt LexVegas Apr 2017 #5

He didn't run indy last time, and he won't next time. Kentonio Apr 2017 #8

Will he now finally denounce the groups out to split the vote? WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #9

This is ridiculous Kentonio Apr 2017 #12

You think this is ridiculous? WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #22

I think Senator Sanders will do what is politically the best thing for liberals tavalon Apr 2017 #69

Bernie always does the right thing... count on it! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2017 #92

Absolutely Kentonio Apr 2017 #147

There won't be a next time for a Democratic POTUS run. MADem Apr 2017 #210

Of course you do. Kentonio Apr 2017 #226

I know, too, that I'm not alone in that assessment. MADem Apr 2017 #233

primarying democrats within the party is a party oriented goal. They can't really get very far JCanete Apr 2017 #10

I see a huge problem with the "Draft Bernie" for a "Peoples Party" group. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #11

I don't see a problem with that. Politics is complicated. I don't want to blanketly say there aren't JCanete Apr 2017 #31

There was no concerted effort, Sanders made some dumb and tone deaf comments. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #49

The solution is not to become bigoted ourselves, or to pander to the socially regressive instincts JCanete Apr 2017 #133

What? LovingA2andMI Apr 2017 #209

They can split the party and weaken incumbents. murielm99 Apr 2017 #118

you mean in a republican primary? I kind of think the primary is where to start, and their JCanete Apr 2017 #127

Don't put words in my mouth. murielm99 Apr 2017 #205

I want Bernie to denounce people who hate turtles. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #14

I want him to denounce my neighbor who parks right on the yellow line. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #18

That is INEXCUSABLE! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #20

DENOUNCE DENOUNCE DENOUNCE The Big Ragu Apr 2017 #154

THIS IS TOTES SERIES!!! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #250

As long as he tilts left, I say givim a pass. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2017 #96

Then he needs to denounce people who put sugar in the cornbread. QC Apr 2017 #19

NO TRUE DEMOCRAT PUTS SUGAR ON THEIR CORNBREAD! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #21

How cute. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #24

Cute? They're bloody adorable! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #27

We Like Turtles.... LovingA2andMI Apr 2017 #211

Turtles rock! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #249

:) Donkees Apr 2017 #41

LOLOLOL! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #45

Once again you are trying to help BS help Republicans?? Amimnoch Apr 2017 #131

DNC Chair Tom Perez & Sanders are now touring the country together for Democrats Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #15

Except that Tom Perez's statement was WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #25

Actually Bernie's exact words were: "We'll be traveling..." beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #39

"We" Usually Reads Are Two or More People..... LovingA2andMI Apr 2017 #213

Yesterday Bernie sent backers a long letter about his upcoming nat'l tour, which is w Tom Perez Cha Apr 2017 #116

From Bernie Sanders own website: riderinthestorm Apr 2017 #222

Precisely! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2017 #93

You should take it up with The Senate Democratic Leadership Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #16

This is exactly why I'm bringing it up. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #26

Well it does say 'Democratic Party Outreach' not 'Draft Bernie Outreach' so there you go. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #32

Your reply doesn't clarify much. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #34

It's as clear as day. What more do you want? Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #87

Seems pretty obvious to me. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2017 #94

It Obvious.... LovingA2andMI Apr 2017 #214

Did you even read the OP? It's asking about the offshoot R B Garr Apr 2017 #101

Actually it does. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #246

Maybe you should have stuck with posting turtle pictures, R B Garr Apr 2017 #253

WHY WON'T BERNIE DENOUNCE TURDUCKENS??? beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #258

So that's a no? No, Bernie has not denounced 3rd R B Garr Apr 2017 #260

So that's a no? No, Bernie has not denounced Turduckens? beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #261

No answer again, but at least no silly pictures. R B Garr Apr 2017 #274

. George II Apr 2017 #194

That's why he's appearing at so many Democratic party sponsored events. lapucelle Apr 2017 #33

You should take a look at the function of that job: George II Apr 2017 #143

Sanders is not going third party. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #28

I think so too. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #35

I did not support him in the primary and I have my residual issues from the election with him BUT... hrmjustin Apr 2017 #51

"Justice Democrats" are Democrats FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #29

No. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #38

lol you go with that FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #64

Exactly, WR.. "justice democrats" was started by cenk and Cha Apr 2017 #73

Thank you for saying this. murielm99 Apr 2017 #77

the "justice democrats" were started by cenk.. Cha Apr 2017 #117

You sure are a busy one The Big Ragu Apr 2017 #155

Last Time We Checked.... LovingA2andMI Apr 2017 #215

They are Democrats if they support whoever wins the Democratic primary, otherwise still_one Apr 2017 #48

Now that is funny lol Chevy Apr 2017 #58

Yes because TYT is a GOP plant lol FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #65

4 million dollar funding from GOP oligarch says it is N/T Chevy Apr 2017 #68

Always, always believe the GOP Oligarchs tavalon Apr 2017 #70

thank you FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #72

You mean Cenk the consevative Chevy Apr 2017 #80

Funny article. murielm99 Apr 2017 #81

And here is the standard response from TYT fan club. Bad comedy indeed. Chevy Apr 2017 #84

I've been to his channel. murielm99 Apr 2017 #88

Now that WIKI leaks has been declared by the CIA an Russian Chevy Apr 2017 #91

I've been with his organization for a long time. tavalon Apr 2017 #83

False NEWS FALSE NEWS!!!!!! lol N/T Chevy Apr 2017 #86

Directly from the source? Okay, read this: George II Apr 2017 #148

cenk got $4 million bucks from a repubican.. Cha Apr 2017 #85

On a common interest, getting the money out of politics FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #102

How naive. How about the Republican wants to fund R B Garr Apr 2017 #105

Yes it's completely naive to think that FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #106

Republicans really like working with "Dems" who R B Garr Apr 2017 #107

You go with that FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #124

RT is a proven propaganda tool of Putin's Russia. R B Garr Apr 2017 #149

Who mentioned RT and Wikileaks? lol FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #166

Fake. This was about Cenk, an ex-Republican who badmouths Democrats and R B Garr Apr 2017 #179

Uhhh, nobody here mentioned RT or anything of that nature FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #196

Uhh, there are these things called subthreads, R B Garr Apr 2017 #228

"Pure" FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #232

Okay, this is old. It's from January and has been posted before. R B Garr Apr 2017 #234

Yeah, lets give this giant bad mouther of Dems $4 million Cha Apr 2017 #139

Exactly, R B.. cenk badmouths Democrats.. from President Obama Cha Apr 2017 #114

And? The party isn't above criticism FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #125

purist cenk is a fucking stupid profiteering hypocrite.. Cha Apr 2017 #138

lol sure FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #144

Nah.. I don't trust ol cenk as far as I could throw that hater Cha Apr 2017 #111

No, it's a republican trying to drive a wedge between Democrats. George II Apr 2017 #162

Disagree. It's a common interest. FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #167

How do you come to that conclusion, since republicans are funding a group of "progressives"... George II Apr 2017 #169

Common interests exist FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #170

So what are the common interests of the TYT and their benefactors? I can think of some... George II Apr 2017 #172

Getting the money out of politics FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #173

Seems odd that someone who presumably wants money out of politics will throw... George II Apr 2017 #174

... by throwing lots of money into politics- LOL- and you don't see the conflict? bettyellen Apr 2017 #180

No I actually don't FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #197

no it doesn't . But a lot of people didn't realize that "corporate donations" were actually made by bettyellen Apr 2017 #199

There is a reason they don't know BainsBane Apr 2017 #243

Gag order. democratisphere Apr 2017 #30

keep your insults to yourself. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #40

Ahhhh. That's what I thought I was doing. democratisphere Apr 2017 #115

he's fighting for the American people Champion Jack Apr 2017 #42

Someone else beat you to that answer. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #53

They are Americans, all Americans. tavalon Apr 2017 #75

I'm not worried. If someone left of Democratic party is in office, they will vote with Democrats aikoaiko Apr 2017 #43

The problem is, he has a group of supporters who are WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #54

One of his groups lost in Los Angeles. They accused R B Garr Apr 2017 #59

All they do is Insult.. good to know, R B Garr Cha Apr 2017 #71

Yes, I thought so too, Cha. R B Garr Apr 2017 #97

Really! Empty, Tired, and Cliche'. Cha Apr 2017 #98

So you're saying that people who make empty insults are irrelevant. aikoaiko Apr 2017 #76

What's good to know is that trying to insult people R B Garr Apr 2017 #95

the candidate with most votes is a liberal JI7 Apr 2017 #82

In the short term, you are completely correct tavalon Apr 2017 #67

That may not be a problem. It worked well in Vermont. aikoaiko Apr 2017 #74

It never ends ornotna Apr 2017 #57

I also wonder about this Gothmog Apr 2017 #60

The only people Bernie isn't fighting for are the millionaires and billionaires. jalan48 Apr 2017 #66

Not counting the stockholders at McDonnell-Douglas, of course. nt MADem Apr 2017 #212

Bernie is Bernie stillcool Apr 2017 #78

Bernie Wants It Both Ways dlk Apr 2017 #99

Bernie was elected by his constituents in VT as an INDY FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #103

As Senator...I guess not... sheshe2 Apr 2017 #110

Warren & Bernie work together often FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #126

Yes, I could. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #141

Have at it FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #142

Thanks for your permission... sheshe2 Apr 2017 #145

So in other words, nothing. Roger that. FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #168

I have plenty. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #193

He "went against their wishes" when it served his purposes, didn't he? SunSeeker Apr 2017 #182

Wrong. FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #195

LOL So, his constituents don't want him to be a Dem...except when he does?! SunSeeker Apr 2017 #219

Negative FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #224

If Bernie "basically is a Dem" why the fuck won't he join our party? SunSeeker Apr 2017 #227

Vermonters elected Bernie due to the label he used? jackssonjack Apr 2017 #200

Try again FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #225

I don't need to try again. jackssonjack Apr 2017 #254

Bernie is given a double standard? FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #267

No? Go Vols Apr 2017 #104

"Vampire Squid"? that term sounds very alt-right radius777 Apr 2017 #291

No. Bernie is fighting to CHANGE the Democratic Party in his image. BlueCaliDem Apr 2017 #113

In his image... murielm99 Apr 2017 #120

Like the Bull Moose Party FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #128

No, more cult-like murielm99 Apr 2017 #220

Nawww FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #223

Hmmm sheshe2 Apr 2017 #203

Welcome back to DU! nt RandiFan1290 Apr 2017 #119

If I had sock puppet friends, or trustworthy colborators, I could fill up threads like this one Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #121

... Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #123

--- Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #132

Seconded. opiate69 Apr 2017 #198

! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #129

It's always the same old tired talking points FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #130

Nailed it (n/t) Nevernose Apr 2017 #146

Splendid! (nt) bekkilyn Apr 2017 #164

Your concern is noted. n/t ms liberty Apr 2017 #122

Need a big tent. We should be embracing ALL those groups sharedvalues Apr 2017 #134

Oh, FFS! alarimer Apr 2017 #135

Russian trolls still at work..... Historic NY Apr 2017 #137

Yep....Pretty Much.... LovingA2andMI Apr 2017 #216

One thing I know for sure. ananda Apr 2017 #150

This seems very divisive. Unnecessarily so. PatrickforO Apr 2017 #157

Yes. What an ignorant question. SMC22307 Apr 2017 #158

Oops. Article title: "Sanders wing dealt setback in Calif. special election" R B Garr Apr 2017 #181

Good catch. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #204

Not really. Crowded field of 24 candidates which... SMC22307 Apr 2017 #280

Sanders beat Hillary in that district? SMC22307 Apr 2017 #276

LOL, how irrelevant. Who cares who won it almost a year ago. R B Garr Apr 2017 #277

LOL! How utterly predictable... SMC22307 Apr 2017 #278

Yes, how predictable that you would poo-poo REALITY. The reality that smearing a R B Garr Apr 2017 #279

"Nasty attacks," "smearing"... now you're making stuff up. SMC22307 Apr 2017 #281

How phony. First you say you never followed Los Angeles politics, now R B Garr Apr 2017 #282

You oh-so-helpfully shared that Politico piece as an attempt to smear Sanders... SMC22307 Apr 2017 #283

So far your posts always lead with a phony personal slam that obviously R B Garr Apr 2017 #284

The *Berniecrats* lost b/c a total of 24 candidates ran and the progressive vote was diluted. SMC22307 Apr 2017 #285

LOL, obviously Bernie wasn't on the ballot. How absurd. R B Garr Apr 2017 #286

Again per the article you shared, 24 candidates ran, diluting the progressive vote. SMC22307 Apr 2017 #287

But per your own post here before, that district voted for Bernie a year ago. R B Garr Apr 2017 #288

Ooh, you've escalated to "smeared them." SMC22307 Apr 2017 #289

There you go again projecting your emotionalism on to me. Obviously R B Garr Apr 2017 #290

Bernie is fighting for the 99% bekkilyn Apr 2017 #160

The Democratic Party is a tool we use to get things done. Orsino Apr 2017 #165

K & R SunSeeker Apr 2017 #175

The idea that *The Party* is what is to be fought for is repulsive to me (nt) TacoD Apr 2017 #176

Good point bekkilyn Apr 2017 #192

Please clarify. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #207

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #217

Oh yeah. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #218

I assume that he is... kentuck Apr 2017 #183

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #185

I don't think he is fighting for Dems. trueblue2007 Apr 2017 #186

Sanders discourages third-party votes: 'Not the time for a protest vote' Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #206

Yes. LWolf Apr 2017 #231

This Really Obscuriates Longitudinal Linguini. A-Schwarzenegger Apr 2017 #252

Blasphemy!! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #263

Please be serious. A-Schwarzenegger Apr 2017 #264

20 lashes with a piece of damp linguine! Arrrrr! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #265

LOL, if only every Democrat was treated with such joviality, mirth and R B Garr Apr 2017 #275

First one may want to contemplate what the Democratic Part(y) is. fleabiscuit Apr 2017 #266