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Demsrule86

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47. I believe criticism of the party...and everyone has a different idea...

Sat Apr 15, 2017, 08:24 AM

Apr 2017

discourages voters and leads to Democratic losses...I will never forget 2010 when Pres. Obama was viciously attacked and what happened...we lost the house. In 16, the Democratic Party was criticized relentlessly and we lost... I am not willing to criticize my party in order to attract some who may or may not vote for us. I will do what I can to make the party work for everyone but at the end of the day. You are either a Democrat or you are not. And I see no reason to change the party to accommodate folks who will not become Democrats. Change happens bottom up...the trouble with the latest folks who want change in the party is that they are not willing to put in the hard work...and field candidates who can win...you need to start at the grass roots level and work within the party to create the change you desire... you must be part of something to have a right to call for change. And if your candidate loses the primary then you still vote Democratic...vote Democratic period. And I will finish by saying criticizing a party does not make those who won't join want to be a part of it...it merely confirms what they already thought.

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Nothing good comes to Democrats from divisiveness [View all] Cary Apr 2017 OP

Mahalo Cary! Cha Apr 2017 #1

K&R betsuni Apr 2017 #2

Agree. Constructive criticism does not mean calling us "feeble" or "no better than the GOP". randome Apr 2017 #3

I'm done with it Cary Apr 2017 #4

As pointed out on another thread, Schumer appointed Sanders in charge of Dem outreach. randome Apr 2017 #5

I guess that depends on Sanders Cary Apr 2017 #6

He was booed lustily by his strident followers oberliner Apr 2017 #7

Surprise surprise! Cary Apr 2017 #8

+1, I took it that way, too. Tom can help control R B Garr Apr 2017 #13

+1000 sheshe2 Apr 2017 #9

So we shouldn't have desegrated the party in the '60s zipplewrath Apr 2017 #10

Vote Democratic Cary Apr 2017 #12

So we should recognize this is 2017 and our clear and present danger comes from other sources.... Hekate Apr 2017 #18

Vote Democratic Hakate! Cary Apr 2017 #26

So it seems that some enjoy discord and divisiveness because they can't figure out synergie Apr 2017 #23

Don't make other people's argument for them zipplewrath Apr 2017 #27

Calling out the obvious and blatant BS isn't making an argument for anyone. synergie Apr 2017 #28

You're trying to complicate things Cary Apr 2017 #30

Agreed Gothmog Apr 2017 #11

Absolutely! The GOP seems to understand that staying R B Garr Apr 2017 #14

True Cary Apr 2017 #16

Thanks Cary NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #15

Agree ...we need to stick together. K&R Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #17

All decisions in life boil down to yes or no, if you think about it. Cary Apr 2017 #20

"Stick together" Cary Apr 2017 #22

Agree. So well said. Justice Apr 2017 #25

Yep...someone likened it to herding cats. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #29

A lot of people aren't going to like this analogy for reasons of their own Cary Apr 2017 #31

You are right... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #32

Of course Cary Apr 2017 #34

hahah... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #72

+1 brer cat Apr 2017 #36

Now you're talking. You are my kind of Democrat. brush Apr 2017 #54

Keep it simple, right? Cary Apr 2017 #56

KnR Hekate Apr 2017 #19

Thank you Cary mcar Apr 2017 #21

Agree + 1 million. Justice Apr 2017 #24

It REALLY IS that simple, folks BannonsLiver Apr 2017 #33

Yes. Thank you. we can do it Apr 2017 #35

Sure don't sow discord or discontent, but it is ok to voice it when it exists. aikoaiko Apr 2017 #37

Vote Democratic! Cary Apr 2017 #39

Yes, and talk about the good things and problems with the Democratic party, too. aikoaiko Apr 2017 #41

I see how sowing discord and discontent doesn't work Cary Apr 2017 #42

I see how not acknowledging discord and discontent doesn't work for Democrats aikoaiko Apr 2017 #46

I completely disagree with you. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #48

Fair enough. We don't have to agree and we can both post our thoughts. aikoaiko Apr 2017 #49

It's not too much to ask people with shared goals to be positive Cary Apr 2017 #53

It's not too much to ask, but its too much to expect acquiescence. aikoaiko Apr 2017 #81

You don't get it Cary Apr 2017 #82

Who is your message for? aikoaiko Apr 2017 #84

What do you think? Cary Apr 2017 #86

I really don't know. I thought it was for DU members. aikoaiko Apr 2017 #108

Oh? Cary Apr 2017 #109

Some here expect perfection before they will vote Democratic... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #87

Where is our energy best invested? Cary Apr 2017 #94

We sure can...cheers! Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #71

Just because you can doesn't mean you should Cary Apr 2017 #52

You straighten all that out during the primaries. Whoever wins you get behind... brush Apr 2017 #57

1000+ Primaries are to air out divisions... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #89

I would think one would want to talk about how bad the Republicans are in order Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #44

I wouldn't think that. There are a lot of folks who lean Democratic when they vote, but... aikoaiko Apr 2017 #45

I believe criticism of the party...and everyone has a different idea... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #47

I disagree. There is a growing set of voters who are more interested in issues/principles than party aikoaiko Apr 2017 #50

Open you eyes. Repugs keep their criticism behind closed doors once they have a candidate brush Apr 2017 #61

As someone once said Lincoln ("a house divided can not stand") Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #90

I absolutely believe we lost because of criticism...which confirmed what those on the edge Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #64

There are a lot of objective studies on this Cary Apr 2017 #55

I completely disagree with this statement or yours brush Apr 2017 #60

Yes indeed. I would argue that more than a few GOP types Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #63

Different opinions on some things but not on overall direction the party should move towards... brush Apr 2017 #58

I agree ....defeating Repugs is our first job...we can cross the 't's' and dot the 'i's' after Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #62

K&R Stinky The Clown Apr 2017 #38

Let's just get the Repubs out and Dems or Indys who will vote with the Dems. kerry-is-my-prez Apr 2017 #40

Manchin votes with the Dems about 80% of the time... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #43

Agreed lies Apr 2017 #51

Deny them and their sophistry Cary Apr 2017 #59

Thanks Carey great post. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #66

Thanks Cary great post. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #67

To be clear lies Apr 2017 #70

We.are in a war against fascists Cary Apr 2017 #73

Yeah, that goes both ways. Defending Democrats gets you the same abuse. synergie Apr 2017 #74

I think lies Apr 2017 #75

Nope synergie Apr 2017 #79

That would be because we want to win and all this Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #91

I don't think that's true lies Apr 2017 #95

I don't think that is what independents vote on...and if they hear constantly how Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #102

Nice post bekkilyn Apr 2017 #85

I am not 'privleged' enough to care how we get rid of Trump. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #93

We all have choice bekkilyn Apr 2017 #107

And you think the GOP you help win are going to be better? Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #99

I wonder how many are Russian plants. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #65

A fair number for sure Cary Apr 2017 #68

I think so. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #69

look at the comments lies Apr 2017 #76

Really because the Republicans are so much better I suppose...(sarcasm) Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #96

I would also like to point out that no one is attacking Sanders which is against Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #98

Criticize and rebut policies and ideas, never "Democrats". cheapdate Apr 2017 #77

Doesn't work lies Apr 2017 #78

Let's test that assertion... cheapdate Apr 2017 #80

That's not gonna do anything lies Apr 2017 #83

On that point I certainly agree... cheapdate Apr 2017 #88

The problem lies Apr 2017 #92

Send mail so we know what you are talking about. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #103

You keep saying that...that your post would be deleted. cheapdate Apr 2017 #105

There is nothing wrong with that post. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #101

Thank you. cheapdate Apr 2017 #106

When you mentions names that is about a person by definition... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #100

sure...I was against the TPP... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #97

Me too. cheapdate Apr 2017 #104