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287. Again per the article you shared, 24 candidates ran, diluting the progressive vote.

Sun Apr 16, 2017, 10:27 PM

Apr 2017

That's a wholehelluvalotta people running. Here are the official results:

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/upcoming-elections/congressional-district-34-special-election/election-results/

Take out Gomez with 25.4% and Ahn with 22.2%, that leaves 22 candidates splitting 52.4% of the vote. I have no idea who the actual Berniecrats are, do you? The article stated "several." We do know that two of them pulled in 10.4%, so that leaves 20 candidates splitting 42% of the vote. Perhaps a Berniecrat could have pulled it off; perhaps not. It's wonderful that so many people are inspired by Bernie to get involved, as the Sanders-supporting City Councilman stated, but it really does dilute the vote.

Damn, only 13.88% turned out. Pathetic.

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Is Bernie Sanders fighting for the Democratic Party? [View all] WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 OP

No, he is fighting for the USA! JoeOtterbein Apr 2017 #1

How is keeping Republicans in office good for the USA? WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #2

I think he is keeping the issues we care wasupaloopa Apr 2017 #13

That's an interesting user name you have there ismnotwasm Apr 2017 #17

I was upaloopa before the site shut down. wasupaloopa Apr 2017 #23

That explains it! ismnotwasm Apr 2017 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author JoeOtterbein Apr 2017 #47

How is speaking with Democrats and backing them for office Warpy Apr 2017 #37

I think he's made it quite clear that he wants a "third" party. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #44

People who confine their reading to anti Sanders sites Warpy Apr 2017 #46

Nice dig. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #52

Post falsehoods, you will be answered. Warpy Apr 2017 #56

What falsehoods have I posted? WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Apr 2017 #109

It is very clear now that Bernie is working to divide the democratic party Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #151

Sanders discourages third-party votes: 'Not the time for a protest vote' Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #208

He did last year BainsBane Apr 2017 #242

You got credible stuff he is for it? Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #244

I made no claims BainsBane Apr 2017 #245

He ain't part of it Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #247

Sadly, Bernie and Thom dont work for who they say they do. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #292

Please post a link where Bernie Sanders "clearly" wants a third party riderinthestorm Apr 2017 #221

Draft Bernie clearly uses his name to advocate R B Garr Apr 2017 #257

The idiots on the JPR site want a third party Gothmog Apr 2017 #61

I suspect many Jackpine Deplorables never voted for a Democrat. oasis Apr 2017 #79

I would not take that bet Gothmog Apr 2017 #184

I've voted D since Jimmy Carter a year after I graduated from High School Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #202

My first vote for POTUS was also Jimmy Carter Gothmog Apr 2017 #229

Again if Hillary DUers had not had the nasty behavior at their site JPR would not even exist Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #230

Have you read the other posts on that site? Gothmog Apr 2017 #235

They only post Kremlin propaganda BainsBane Apr 2017 #238

The explanation for the existence of the JPR website does not make sense to me either Gothmog Apr 2017 #239

It's purpose was to defeat Hillary BainsBane Apr 2017 #241

What pro-Trump Putin Russia stuff? Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #248

You may want to read the greatest page occassionally Gothmog Apr 2017 #256

are you saying there is no political purpose for the site? BainsBane Apr 2017 #237

Here are some additional pro russian JPR threads Gothmog Apr 2017 #259

JPR was the sanctuary for the vast majority over there who refused to vote for Hillary in the still_one Apr 2017 #271

OS on John Lewis Tue Sep 18, 2012, 10:50 AM Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #251

And yet there has been numerous threads on JPR thrashing Congressman Lewis Gothmog Apr 2017 #255

Do you see me posting much outside LBN or my room on JPR? Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #262

No one really cares about your posts on JPR Gothmog Apr 2017 #268

No, Hillary supporters didn't jump start JPR. Some supporters formed a pro-Hillary site pnwmom Apr 2017 #240

I visited the other boards just to be among posters who were not attacking Hillary Clinton Gothmog Apr 2017 #269

Thanks for setting the record straight pnwmom sheshe2 Apr 2017 #270

Someone's feelings were hurt Gothmog Apr 2017 #272

Owning up to the minor role they played in putting Trump in power oasis Apr 2017 #273

I've wondered how many over there are Russian trolls. Warpy Apr 2017 #201

There are clearly a number of russian trolls on that site Gothmog Apr 2017 #236

There is a group that wants to radically change the Democratic Party tavalon Apr 2017 #62

You know what? Cary Apr 2017 #140

Well stated. LisaM Apr 2017 #153

I think we have had paid Russian trolls whipping up the less intelligent amongst us Cary Apr 2017 #161

Very well said. nt stevenleser Apr 2017 #156

Thank you, Cary! NurseJackie Apr 2017 #159

+1000! mcar Apr 2017 #163

+1,000,000 synergie Apr 2017 #171

Thank you! SunSeeker Apr 2017 #177

RIGHT ON. I don't care where they get their $$ from as long as they continue to represent me trueblue2007 Apr 2017 #188

Oh, I don't like it Cary Apr 2017 #190

Bernie wants Democrats to start acting like Democrats. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2017 #90

That's a specious statement. How would Bernie know how Democrats should act? BlueCaliDem Apr 2017 #112

he has never been one. he needs to stop telling us how to act unless he wants to trueblue2007 Apr 2017 #189

Precisely. Democratic values means working for the benefit of the people, period. JudyM Apr 2017 #178

How is Bernie keeping Republicans in office? JoeOtterbein Apr 2017 #50

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #55

By creating 3rd party votes and in some cases by Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #152

It isn't good for our country. we need to REMOVE REPUBLICANS --- not allow them to win elections. trueblue2007 Apr 2017 #187

Vote Democratic! Cary Apr 2017 #191

And I take it from you answer that he and some of his supporters WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #4

Aggreed , It would be great if the kacekwl Apr 2017 #136

Another Bernie basher, how original Luciferous Apr 2017 #3

It's a question, not a bash. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #6

Some fashions are worthwhile. randome Apr 2017 #7

BS called the Democratic Party "feeble" and "can't fight back" on RMS.. Cha Apr 2017 #89

Thanks for the link, Cha DesertRat Apr 2017 #100

Mahalo, DesertRat! Cha Apr 2017 #108

No. nt LexVegas Apr 2017 #5

He didn't run indy last time, and he won't next time. Kentonio Apr 2017 #8

Will he now finally denounce the groups out to split the vote? WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #9

This is ridiculous Kentonio Apr 2017 #12

You think this is ridiculous? WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #22

I think Senator Sanders will do what is politically the best thing for liberals tavalon Apr 2017 #69

Bernie always does the right thing... count on it! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2017 #92

Absolutely Kentonio Apr 2017 #147

There won't be a next time for a Democratic POTUS run. MADem Apr 2017 #210

Of course you do. Kentonio Apr 2017 #226

I know, too, that I'm not alone in that assessment. MADem Apr 2017 #233

primarying democrats within the party is a party oriented goal. They can't really get very far JCanete Apr 2017 #10

I see a huge problem with the "Draft Bernie" for a "Peoples Party" group. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #11

I don't see a problem with that. Politics is complicated. I don't want to blanketly say there aren't JCanete Apr 2017 #31

There was no concerted effort, Sanders made some dumb and tone deaf comments. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #49

The solution is not to become bigoted ourselves, or to pander to the socially regressive instincts JCanete Apr 2017 #133

What? LovingA2andMI Apr 2017 #209

They can split the party and weaken incumbents. murielm99 Apr 2017 #118

you mean in a republican primary? I kind of think the primary is where to start, and their JCanete Apr 2017 #127

Don't put words in my mouth. murielm99 Apr 2017 #205

I want Bernie to denounce people who hate turtles. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #14

I want him to denounce my neighbor who parks right on the yellow line. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #18

That is INEXCUSABLE! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #20

DENOUNCE DENOUNCE DENOUNCE The Big Ragu Apr 2017 #154

THIS IS TOTES SERIES!!! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #250

As long as he tilts left, I say givim a pass. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2017 #96

Then he needs to denounce people who put sugar in the cornbread. QC Apr 2017 #19

NO TRUE DEMOCRAT PUTS SUGAR ON THEIR CORNBREAD! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #21

How cute. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #24

Cute? They're bloody adorable! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #27

We Like Turtles.... LovingA2andMI Apr 2017 #211

Turtles rock! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #249

:) Donkees Apr 2017 #41

LOLOLOL! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #45

Once again you are trying to help BS help Republicans?? Amimnoch Apr 2017 #131

DNC Chair Tom Perez & Sanders are now touring the country together for Democrats Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #15

Except that Tom Perez's statement was WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #25

Actually Bernie's exact words were: "We'll be traveling..." beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #39

"We" Usually Reads Are Two or More People..... LovingA2andMI Apr 2017 #213

Yesterday Bernie sent backers a long letter about his upcoming nat'l tour, which is w Tom Perez Cha Apr 2017 #116

From Bernie Sanders own website: riderinthestorm Apr 2017 #222

Precisely! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2017 #93

You should take it up with The Senate Democratic Leadership Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #16

This is exactly why I'm bringing it up. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #26

Well it does say 'Democratic Party Outreach' not 'Draft Bernie Outreach' so there you go. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #32

Your reply doesn't clarify much. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #34

It's as clear as day. What more do you want? Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #87

Seems pretty obvious to me. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2017 #94

It Obvious.... LovingA2andMI Apr 2017 #214

Did you even read the OP? It's asking about the offshoot R B Garr Apr 2017 #101

Actually it does. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #246

Maybe you should have stuck with posting turtle pictures, R B Garr Apr 2017 #253

WHY WON'T BERNIE DENOUNCE TURDUCKENS??? beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #258

So that's a no? No, Bernie has not denounced 3rd R B Garr Apr 2017 #260

So that's a no? No, Bernie has not denounced Turduckens? beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #261

No answer again, but at least no silly pictures. R B Garr Apr 2017 #274

. George II Apr 2017 #194

That's why he's appearing at so many Democratic party sponsored events. lapucelle Apr 2017 #33

You should take a look at the function of that job: George II Apr 2017 #143

Sanders is not going third party. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #28

I think so too. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #35

I did not support him in the primary and I have my residual issues from the election with him BUT... hrmjustin Apr 2017 #51

"Justice Democrats" are Democrats FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #29

No. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #38

lol you go with that FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #64

Exactly, WR.. "justice democrats" was started by cenk and Cha Apr 2017 #73

Thank you for saying this. murielm99 Apr 2017 #77

the "justice democrats" were started by cenk.. Cha Apr 2017 #117

You sure are a busy one The Big Ragu Apr 2017 #155

Last Time We Checked.... LovingA2andMI Apr 2017 #215

They are Democrats if they support whoever wins the Democratic primary, otherwise still_one Apr 2017 #48

Now that is funny lol Chevy Apr 2017 #58

Yes because TYT is a GOP plant lol FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #65

4 million dollar funding from GOP oligarch says it is N/T Chevy Apr 2017 #68

Always, always believe the GOP Oligarchs tavalon Apr 2017 #70

thank you FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #72

You mean Cenk the consevative Chevy Apr 2017 #80

Funny article. murielm99 Apr 2017 #81

And here is the standard response from TYT fan club. Bad comedy indeed. Chevy Apr 2017 #84

I've been to his channel. murielm99 Apr 2017 #88

Now that WIKI leaks has been declared by the CIA an Russian Chevy Apr 2017 #91

I've been with his organization for a long time. tavalon Apr 2017 #83

False NEWS FALSE NEWS!!!!!! lol N/T Chevy Apr 2017 #86

Directly from the source? Okay, read this: George II Apr 2017 #148

cenk got $4 million bucks from a repubican.. Cha Apr 2017 #85

On a common interest, getting the money out of politics FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #102

How naive. How about the Republican wants to fund R B Garr Apr 2017 #105

Yes it's completely naive to think that FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #106

Republicans really like working with "Dems" who R B Garr Apr 2017 #107

You go with that FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #124

RT is a proven propaganda tool of Putin's Russia. R B Garr Apr 2017 #149

Who mentioned RT and Wikileaks? lol FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #166

Fake. This was about Cenk, an ex-Republican who badmouths Democrats and R B Garr Apr 2017 #179

Uhhh, nobody here mentioned RT or anything of that nature FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #196

Uhh, there are these things called subthreads, R B Garr Apr 2017 #228

"Pure" FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #232

Okay, this is old. It's from January and has been posted before. R B Garr Apr 2017 #234

Yeah, lets give this giant bad mouther of Dems $4 million Cha Apr 2017 #139

Exactly, R B.. cenk badmouths Democrats.. from President Obama Cha Apr 2017 #114

And? The party isn't above criticism FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #125

purist cenk is a fucking stupid profiteering hypocrite.. Cha Apr 2017 #138

lol sure FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #144

Nah.. I don't trust ol cenk as far as I could throw that hater Cha Apr 2017 #111

No, it's a republican trying to drive a wedge between Democrats. George II Apr 2017 #162

Disagree. It's a common interest. FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #167

How do you come to that conclusion, since republicans are funding a group of "progressives"... George II Apr 2017 #169

Common interests exist FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #170

So what are the common interests of the TYT and their benefactors? I can think of some... George II Apr 2017 #172

Getting the money out of politics FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #173

Seems odd that someone who presumably wants money out of politics will throw... George II Apr 2017 #174

... by throwing lots of money into politics- LOL- and you don't see the conflict? bettyellen Apr 2017 #180

No I actually don't FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #197

no it doesn't . But a lot of people didn't realize that "corporate donations" were actually made by bettyellen Apr 2017 #199

There is a reason they don't know BainsBane Apr 2017 #243

Gag order. democratisphere Apr 2017 #30

keep your insults to yourself. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #40

Ahhhh. That's what I thought I was doing. democratisphere Apr 2017 #115

he's fighting for the American people Champion Jack Apr 2017 #42

Someone else beat you to that answer. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #53

They are Americans, all Americans. tavalon Apr 2017 #75

I'm not worried. If someone left of Democratic party is in office, they will vote with Democrats aikoaiko Apr 2017 #43

The problem is, he has a group of supporters who are WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #54

One of his groups lost in Los Angeles. They accused R B Garr Apr 2017 #59

All they do is Insult.. good to know, R B Garr Cha Apr 2017 #71

Yes, I thought so too, Cha. R B Garr Apr 2017 #97

Really! Empty, Tired, and Cliche'. Cha Apr 2017 #98

So you're saying that people who make empty insults are irrelevant. aikoaiko Apr 2017 #76

What's good to know is that trying to insult people R B Garr Apr 2017 #95

the candidate with most votes is a liberal JI7 Apr 2017 #82

In the short term, you are completely correct tavalon Apr 2017 #67

That may not be a problem. It worked well in Vermont. aikoaiko Apr 2017 #74

It never ends ornotna Apr 2017 #57

I also wonder about this Gothmog Apr 2017 #60

The only people Bernie isn't fighting for are the millionaires and billionaires. jalan48 Apr 2017 #66

Not counting the stockholders at McDonnell-Douglas, of course. nt MADem Apr 2017 #212

Bernie is Bernie stillcool Apr 2017 #78

Bernie Wants It Both Ways dlk Apr 2017 #99

Bernie was elected by his constituents in VT as an INDY FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #103

As Senator...I guess not... sheshe2 Apr 2017 #110

Warren & Bernie work together often FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #126

Yes, I could. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #141

Have at it FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #142

Thanks for your permission... sheshe2 Apr 2017 #145

So in other words, nothing. Roger that. FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #168

I have plenty. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #193

He "went against their wishes" when it served his purposes, didn't he? SunSeeker Apr 2017 #182

Wrong. FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #195

LOL So, his constituents don't want him to be a Dem...except when he does?! SunSeeker Apr 2017 #219

Negative FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #224

If Bernie "basically is a Dem" why the fuck won't he join our party? SunSeeker Apr 2017 #227

Vermonters elected Bernie due to the label he used? jackssonjack Apr 2017 #200

Try again FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #225

I don't need to try again. jackssonjack Apr 2017 #254

Bernie is given a double standard? FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #267

No? Go Vols Apr 2017 #104

"Vampire Squid"? that term sounds very alt-right radius777 Apr 2017 #291

No. Bernie is fighting to CHANGE the Democratic Party in his image. BlueCaliDem Apr 2017 #113

In his image... murielm99 Apr 2017 #120

Like the Bull Moose Party FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #128

No, more cult-like murielm99 Apr 2017 #220

Nawww FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #223

Hmmm sheshe2 Apr 2017 #203

Welcome back to DU! nt RandiFan1290 Apr 2017 #119

If I had sock puppet friends, or trustworthy colborators, I could fill up threads like this one Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #121

... Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #123

--- Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #132

Seconded. opiate69 Apr 2017 #198

! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #129

It's always the same old tired talking points FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #130

Nailed it (n/t) Nevernose Apr 2017 #146

Splendid! (nt) bekkilyn Apr 2017 #164

Your concern is noted. n/t ms liberty Apr 2017 #122

Need a big tent. We should be embracing ALL those groups sharedvalues Apr 2017 #134

Oh, FFS! alarimer Apr 2017 #135

Russian trolls still at work..... Historic NY Apr 2017 #137

Yep....Pretty Much.... LovingA2andMI Apr 2017 #216

One thing I know for sure. ananda Apr 2017 #150

This seems very divisive. Unnecessarily so. PatrickforO Apr 2017 #157

Yes. What an ignorant question. SMC22307 Apr 2017 #158

Oops. Article title: "Sanders wing dealt setback in Calif. special election" R B Garr Apr 2017 #181

Good catch. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #204

Not really. Crowded field of 24 candidates which... SMC22307 Apr 2017 #280

Sanders beat Hillary in that district? SMC22307 Apr 2017 #276

LOL, how irrelevant. Who cares who won it almost a year ago. R B Garr Apr 2017 #277

LOL! How utterly predictable... SMC22307 Apr 2017 #278

Yes, how predictable that you would poo-poo REALITY. The reality that smearing a R B Garr Apr 2017 #279

"Nasty attacks," "smearing"... now you're making stuff up. SMC22307 Apr 2017 #281

How phony. First you say you never followed Los Angeles politics, now R B Garr Apr 2017 #282

You oh-so-helpfully shared that Politico piece as an attempt to smear Sanders... SMC22307 Apr 2017 #283

So far your posts always lead with a phony personal slam that obviously R B Garr Apr 2017 #284

The *Berniecrats* lost b/c a total of 24 candidates ran and the progressive vote was diluted. SMC22307 Apr 2017 #285

LOL, obviously Bernie wasn't on the ballot. How absurd. R B Garr Apr 2017 #286

Again per the article you shared, 24 candidates ran, diluting the progressive vote. SMC22307 Apr 2017 #287

But per your own post here before, that district voted for Bernie a year ago. R B Garr Apr 2017 #288

Ooh, you've escalated to "smeared them." SMC22307 Apr 2017 #289

There you go again projecting your emotionalism on to me. Obviously R B Garr Apr 2017 #290

Bernie is fighting for the 99% bekkilyn Apr 2017 #160

The Democratic Party is a tool we use to get things done. Orsino Apr 2017 #165

K & R SunSeeker Apr 2017 #175

The idea that *The Party* is what is to be fought for is repulsive to me (nt) TacoD Apr 2017 #176

Good point bekkilyn Apr 2017 #192

Please clarify. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #207

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #217

Oh yeah. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #218

I assume that he is... kentuck Apr 2017 #183

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #185

I don't think he is fighting for Dems. trueblue2007 Apr 2017 #186

Sanders discourages third-party votes: 'Not the time for a protest vote' Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #206

Yes. LWolf Apr 2017 #231

This Really Obscuriates Longitudinal Linguini. A-Schwarzenegger Apr 2017 #252

Blasphemy!! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #263

Please be serious. A-Schwarzenegger Apr 2017 #264

20 lashes with a piece of damp linguine! Arrrrr! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #265

LOL, if only every Democrat was treated with such joviality, mirth and R B Garr Apr 2017 #275

First one may want to contemplate what the Democratic Part(y) is. fleabiscuit Apr 2017 #266