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Warren DeMontague

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21. I think that ought to be a different conversation.

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 06:42 PM

Apr 2017

Personally I take issue with surgically modifying the body of someone - like a baby - without their consent for any reason not supported by direct medical necessity (and no, male circumcision is not) ... however, there are major differences btw. male circumcision and female "circumcision".

Yes, have that debate, but not in the context of this one. Just my 2 cents.

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Michigan doctor says female genital surgery was a 'religious practice' -- not mutilation [View all] DonViejo Apr 2017 OP

What exactly is ExciteBike66 Apr 2017 #1

The lawyer claims she only "wiped" the "mucous membrane." RedWedge Apr 2017 #3

I'm assuming it is the "excess" labial tissue that many women have around their vaginas... Wounded Bear Apr 2017 #4

I'm surprised more religions haven't declared the human head "excess unnecessary tissue" Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #23

Anything in the name of religion! HAB911 Apr 2017 #2

Silly Dr mercuryblues Apr 2017 #5

Christians have "beliefs" leftynyc Apr 2017 #7

That is not what I said mercuryblues Apr 2017 #10

I got exactly what you meant and ITA! 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2017 #27

Another rather tortured attempt at "equivalence" whathehell Apr 2017 #13

tortured attempt? mercuryblues Apr 2017 #20

Sounds awful, but I doubt even you would say it's equal to being mutilated as a child whathehell Apr 2017 #24

And the Catholic Church would let you die from an ectopic pregnancy rather than 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2017 #28

Sorry, even that doesn't equate to mutilating children.. whathehell Apr 2017 #42

I wonder how many of the women condemned by the Catholic Church to die excrutiating, unnecessary 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2017 #45

The church can't "condemn" her to anything, as a woman is free whathehell Apr 2017 #50

Right! Some choice, huh? Have a lifesaving abortion, or get an express ticket to hell. 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2017 #51

No, sorry, the melodrama is impressive, but can't override the facts. whathehell Apr 2017 #68

I'm going to remember this thread leftynyc Apr 2017 #73

Sounds good. whathehell Apr 2017 #74

And NASA bombed the moon, too. Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #44

It has everything to do with it. 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2017 #46

I don't think anyone here agrees with the RCC on reproductive choice or the lack thereof. Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #48

This subject is too important and the abuse is too widespread not to point out the similarities. 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2017 #54

I agree with pretty much every point you're making here Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #56

There are 57 replies in this thread but *I* hijacked it. 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2017 #58

Most of those replies are on topic. Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #59

I wasn't aware you were the on topic arbiter. 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2017 #61

so--- how about that moon bombing, huh? Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #62

again, that is not what I said mercuryblues Apr 2017 #36

I didn't say that you did... whathehell Apr 2017 #41

Maybe because Christian 'beliefs" don't mandate sexual mutilation whathehell Apr 2017 #11

So just some christian mercuryblues Apr 2017 #37

You're trying hard.. whathehell Apr 2017 #40

They do in quite a few countries jberryhill Apr 2017 #66

In Africa... whathehell Apr 2017 #67

And this makes me glad I'm an atheist. Initech Apr 2017 #6

Like Circumcision? TBA Apr 2017 #8

Um, no., FGM, circumcision doesn't eliminate sexual feeling in boys.. whathehell Apr 2017 #12

+1 Blue_Tires Apr 2017 #16

Oh yes.. whathehell Apr 2017 #25

Fail grossproffit Apr 2017 #33

"Religious practice" safeinOhio Apr 2017 #9

Gawd speaks in mysterious ways... Thor_MN Apr 2017 #31

And yet male genital mutilation is ongoing and encouraged in our society Calculating Apr 2017 #14

I thought that it was done for health reasons. pennylane100 Apr 2017 #15

That's mostly wrong Calculating Apr 2017 #17

Bigger issue in third world countries Yupster Apr 2017 #19

You get a couple of percentage point bump if you live in Africa... Baconator Apr 2017 #18

Health reasons would eliminate the traditional method of circumcision csziggy Apr 2017 #32

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2017 #72

I think that ought to be a different conversation. Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #21

Yes, it's a poor analogy.. whathehell Apr 2017 #43

agree, all forms of circ/mod of children should be illegal. radius777 Apr 2017 #65

that isn't necessarily my position, but this isn't the place to debate it. Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #71

Give me a break. grossproffit Apr 2017 #34

Female genital mutilation is the equivalent of loping off the penis altogether. RandySF Apr 2017 #55

But But DERPLY HERLD RELERGERS BERLERFS Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #22

No difference. elleng Apr 2017 #26

Gosh. Cruelty in the name of religion. Who could have imagined such a thing? n/t Binkie The Clown Apr 2017 #29

Oh please... whathehell Apr 2017 #47

I didn't condemn religion in general. Binkie The Clown Apr 2017 #49

Look deep enough and there is creulty in all religions GulfCoast66 Apr 2017 #57

+1000 ! n/t Binkie The Clown Apr 2017 #70

If she can point to it in the Quran, she can be let go Warpy Apr 2017 #30

No she can't RandySF Apr 2017 #53

He should be castrated, penis and all. Greybnk48 Apr 2017 #35

The surgeon is a woman. rug Apr 2017 #39

Lock that kook up and throw away the keys. oasis Apr 2017 #38

Fuck that. RandySF Apr 2017 #52

Fuck these people MFM008 Apr 2017 #60

This is why I hate these religious freedom bills. Ilsa Apr 2017 #63

whats funny is all manner of oppressive, theocratic bullshit would be okay Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #64

This breaks my heart... Blue_Roses Apr 2017 #69