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Rilgin

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61. You do know that you brought LBGQ Rights into discussion? Not Me.
Fri Apr 28, 2017, 02:09 PM
Apr 2017

You asked if we could sacrifice those rights implying that the rights of LBGQ individuals was also something that demanded purity. I know where I stand and have stood for 40 years since the age of 18. I do consider equal rights for everyone as a moral issue. However, there are politicians that you support that have sacrificed elements of absolute support of equal rights for political reasons. I am pretty sure (not absolutely sure) that you have not had the same sense of purity outrage about these candidates.

I am glad you don't care about Hillary. I don't really either at this point but your purity should apply to her and Obama as well and I am sure you will not really do so. However, what you don't say and what would actually make your purity outrage more genuine (rather than another chance to hit on Bernie) would be your outrage at the time against those candidates based on your standards that support for bad law is a line that can not be crossed and is absolutely defining of a candidate years later.

BTW, I sent you an actual link to Bernie's speech in Omaha the other day so you could see that the NYT article you have been using is making up a characterization of that speech rather than accurately reporting. Have you examined it yet? And yes, you have accurately reported what the Times said but are using that to say that the Times is proof that is what Bernie said.

You do know that at one point Mark Twain was called dead by numerous newspapers. When it turned out he was not according to him, which would you believe, the proof of your eyes or the fact that newspapers reported it? Was Mark Twain dead as the Newspapers reported or was he alive using his own words as proof?

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Why not add Elizabeth Warren in the comments? guillaumeb Apr 2017 #1
Psst. Wrong narrative. n/t Orsino Apr 2017 #3
Yes, we know and are supposed to ignore the obvious. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #4
Instead of griping, this could be an opportunity for you to "balance" things... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #7
Thank you for the invitation, but in brief: guillaumeb Apr 2017 #8
There are many possibilities. Yours is only one of many. Please see post #9 (below) NurseJackie Apr 2017 #11
"Obama team lines up behind Perriello" Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #25
Perrillio votes for the stupak amendment and almost derailed the ACA...he is not a solid choice. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #33
This surprises me about Elizabeth. WhiteTara Apr 2017 #27
It is simple. Else You Are Mad Apr 2017 #30
i.e., she can't win? WhiteTara Apr 2017 #32
Pretty much. Else You Are Mad Apr 2017 #36
This is a primary. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #34
I have to defer to Warren's knowledge. Else You Are Mad Apr 2017 #38
Not me... I think for myself and I lived in Virginia for years...my family still does... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #39
And, I respect that. Else You Are Mad Apr 2017 #43
I am very angry about Dem leaders endorsing anti-choice candidates...Sen. Sanders is just one person Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #44
I called her...it's a primary. She should not endorse a candidate with who voted for the Stupak Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #35
I cannot answer for Warren, or Sanders, but I feel that they are choosing to endorse guillaumeb Apr 2017 #49
I did in fact add Sen. Warren...as this was certainly fair and an omission on my part. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #18
I guess she's just not a "popular" as Bernie. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #5
SO is the goal to attack Sanders and refrain from attacking "real Democrats" guillaumeb Apr 2017 #6
I cannot account for the conclusions at which you arrive. Your accusations appear to be based... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #9
It is obvious why there is a double standard here, and in other articles. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #10
What double standard are you referring to? Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #15
It's bullshit. It's a deflection technique... used to change the subject. Fact is this... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #20
And he has chosen to be the Party's arbiter WhiteTara Apr 2017 #29
I know, right? NurseJackie Apr 2017 #41
I have no other agenda then to fight this move right by the Democratic Party in Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #37
People who are too emotionally invested in a single politician will often ... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #40
The evident one. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #47
As is the denial of holding a tin god held to any standard at all LanternWaste Apr 2017 #21
No, I added Elizabeth Warren's name at your suggestion...and have called her office as well as Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #16
You talk much about how this is unfair to Senator Sanders...I am equally angry Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #31
I appreciate your additions. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #48
I was quoting the article, but more than willing to add her name in an update Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #12
Was glad to see that Rilgin Apr 2017 #22
I object to any Democratic leaders supporting Perriello... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #23
Frankly I am a little confused by the split in this race Rilgin Apr 2017 #26
Perriello is very anti-choice. He only repented when he wanted to run for office. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #28
I am aware of that... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #42
One bus to rule them all Rilgin Apr 2017 #45
We are under the bus with this pernicious notion that Reproductive rights Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #46
The problem is projection Rilgin Apr 2017 #51
Had Hillary been against gay marriage it would have been a deal breaker in the primary...she had Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #53
Responded to Myself instead of you (see other response to myself) NT Rilgin Apr 2017 #58
Here is an article on Perrielo's evolution Rilgin Apr 2017 #57
I have answered myself... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #60
You do know that you brought LBGQ Rights into discussion? Not Me. Rilgin Apr 2017 #61
I asked you what rights are we giving up next...which is why I brought LGBTQ Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #62
You can attibute the words to the Times Article and call it a characterisation using quotes NT Rilgin Apr 2017 #63
I updated my OP...you are right. Thanks for the suggestion. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #13
Bad! Bad! Bad! Raster Apr 2017 #24
We in Virginia know Perriello and no thanks. nt LexVegas Apr 2017 #2
He seems like an opportunist to me...I have family in Northern VA, Roanoke and Charlottesville. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #14
I live in Roanoke. An opportunist is a perfect way to describe Perriello. nt LexVegas Apr 2017 #17
My cousin in Roanoke says he should not have run...and worries he will cost us the seat. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #19
I've lived in VA for over 31 years now. Northam's got my vote. williesgirl Apr 2017 #50
I agree and so does my family. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #55
*eyes glaze over* romanic Apr 2017 #52
Have a drink on me...I have some new gin...I am now glutent intolerant according to my doc. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #54
perriello is an opportunist with ambition. drray23 Apr 2017 #56
Thanks...I have family in Virginia still that says the same thing...really miss the state... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #59
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