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nolabear

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9. I'm deeply disturbed by the advocacy of possible violence around here lately.

Thu May 4, 2017, 11:43 AM

May 2017

You want to talk death spiral? Start "going low" and they, who DO in fact have control of the military right now will use it. They'll convince their people that the left is dangerous and must be subjugated and that train of thought will be Exhibit A.

We have to work like mad to uphold the democratic process and get reasonable people back into office. And those people have to work like mad to start a discussion with the moderate right and those who are far right out of exactly the fear of what you're demonstrating.

If we aren't better than that, we're already gone.

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The United States of America is in a death spiral. [View all] MoonRiver May 2017 OP

No that seems to be accurate Voltaire2 May 2017 #1

Inaccurate. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #38

While I wouldn't go that far, we are indeed hanging by a thread: global faith in the dollar. tenorly May 2017 #58

You are only wrong if we unite, rise up and fight with no holds barred. KPN May 2017 #2

So civil war is the only thing that will save the nation? GliderGuider May 2017 #3

Damn it will make those bdamomma May 2017 #24

No. It would not save the nation. But there are much better ways. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #39

Please elaborate on the better ways. hamsterjill May 2017 #61

One is to support Obama with his Leadership training programs. Another is to encourage women Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #67

I'm sorry, but your answer seems quite naive to me. hamsterjill May 2017 #74

Won't take decades. Obama's not waiting and women are signing up in massive numbers. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #75

Who said anything about civil war? We just gotta be mean bastards back at em. KPN May 2017 #91

That's where "unite, rise up and fight with no holds barred" ends up. GliderGuider May 2017 #92

Yes they do. But it's not the deplorables -- they are just blind lackeys for KPN May 2017 #96

I'm deeply disturbed by the advocacy of possible violence around here lately. nolabear May 2017 #9

Democrats need to fight Republicans the way Republicans fight Democrtas. TeamPooka May 2017 #13

Sure. Strength, numbers, working to gain support, resistance. nolabear May 2017 #20

I support your common sense approach, nolabear True Dough May 2017 #30

Amen. And mind you I'm FURIOUS. nolabear May 2017 #66

I mean remaining united and sticking to a strong message. TeamPooka May 2017 #79

Indeed. We need to stop infighting and unite. We need optimism and work. nolabear May 2017 #80

No. Read Sun Tzu. Don't fight their war. End run them & fight smarter, not harder. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #40

Thank you! Thank you!! Thank you!!! hamsterjill May 2017 #46

100% Correct! BigOleDummy May 2017 #48

This sounds a lot like the philosophy of Polish Jews circa 1938... Moostache May 2017 #69

AGREED! BigOleDummy May 2017 #47

I'm with you. hamsterjill May 2017 #60

It all started with Reagan and his "government is the enemy" bullshit. Initech May 2017 #4

more over it started with nixon and hmo's and him being pardoned. nt Javaman May 2017 #19

Reagan ran on that platform when he was running for governor of California. Initech May 2017 #44

I always found it interesting Mr.Bill May 2017 #32

It certainly feels like it kimbutgar May 2017 #5

And some blue States turned RED in November TrishaJ May 2017 #12

Though, Wisconsin, Florida, Pennsylvania, and Michigan never have felt blue to me. kimbutgar May 2017 #23

actually Dems lost 1000 seats Republicans from 2010 on delisen May 2017 #83

this is really sad bdamomma May 2017 #25

Yes, it feels like it, and prob get worse before better. But it WILL get BETTER. Dems will triumph. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #43

Ultimately, I think you are right. hamsterjill May 2017 #49

Then die fighting smarter if you've nothing to lose & everything to gain for future of the young. nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #52

I fight every day. hamsterjill May 2017 #56

Excellent. That is inspirational. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #63

I can't believe that monster is president. cwydro May 2017 #6

Afraid we'll have to wait until 2018 to be proven wrong. 6000eliot May 2017 #7

I've believed this for some time Va Lefty May 2017 #8

If George Carlin was still living bdamomma May 2017 #27

Yes he definitely saw the "writing on the wall" Va Lefty May 2017 #65

Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction Get Off Of My Cloud May 2017 #10

That's too limited. Civilization itself is in a death spiral. robertpaulsen May 2017 #11

"Humanity is a virus in tennis shoes." - Bill Hicks BannonsLiver May 2017 #14

President Hicks - that's who we need! robertpaulsen May 2017 #88

No. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #53

Not Death Spiral but, in Critical Condition lovemydogs May 2017 #15

It's like the GOP is intentionally trying to provoke Civil War. Initech May 2017 #17

It could happen. It really could mvd May 2017 #21

I agree, they can't keep getting away with this. Initech May 2017 #22

I'm down. Ligyron May 2017 #81

Yes. Critical conditon. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #54

I prefer to just ignore venting without substance... brooklynite May 2017 #16

It seems that way. I nearly puked when I walked into the house this morning and heard Vinca May 2017 #18

crap, he doesn't believe in God??? bdamomma May 2017 #28

No. The world is in a death spiral. Kirkwood May 2017 #26

NO. Pessimism like that is ignorant of human ingenuity and persistance. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #34

It's not pessimism. It's a fact. Kirkwood May 2017 #73

It's defeatist pessimism. The world will change ("no return") but it will still be a wonderful world Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #76

Ugh! nt Kirkwood May 2017 #78

You are correct get the red out May 2017 #29

NO. It will change. Democrats, libs & progs Resiste, Persist, and will Triumph. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #36

The fascist terrorists just voted to murder 50,000 Americans a year elmac May 2017 #31

Exactly. And I'm one of those 50,000. hamsterjill May 2017 #72

I could be to elmac May 2017 #86

Reagan killed the American dream elmac May 2017 #87

NO. NO. No. Defeatism tends toward self-fulfilment. The MAJORITY of USA are resisters. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #33

That's the problem Freddie May 2017 #42

We WILL win by huge majorities at some point & we must be UNITED to move fast then. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #50

I'm terrified hibbing May 2017 #35

Talk to us. We are with you. Change what you can, accept what you can't. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #62

I cried all day Nov. 9 Freddie May 2017 #37

I cried the night St. Ronnie was elected. Thirties Child May 2017 #82

Every 50 years or so the US has a major upheaval AngryAmish May 2017 #41

I'm not going low vlyons May 2017 #45

+1 . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #55

I see it too. MrScorpio May 2017 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author tenorly May 2017 #57

I agree. An idiocracy is unsustainable. nt ecstatic May 2017 #59

That's why it will FALL and we will triumph and the USA is NOT in a death spiral. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #68

United States has been in a slow death spiral for decades. redumbliCONs democratisphere May 2017 #64

The spiral can be broken bucolic_frolic May 2017 #70

I agree singed.dude May 2017 #71

What is your evidence? taught_me_patience May 2017 #77

Reagan lit the fuse workinclasszero May 2017 #84

Step back and look at the big picture. Binkie The Clown May 2017 #85

First, turn off the TV. Ron Green May 2017 #89

You seem to be assuming I don't do those things. MoonRiver May 2017 #90

I wasn't really addressing you personally so much as Ron Green May 2017 #95

The world is racing to the bottom of the abyss. America is simply leading the pack. nt GliderGuider May 2017 #93

Since 1963 ileus May 2017 #94