The United States of America is in a death spiral.

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96. Yes they do. But it's not the deplorables -- they are just blind lackeys for

the oligarchs. It's the oligarchs who want to thin the herd for their own sustainability. They will want to thin out any of the deplorables who wake up and refuse to fight their wars or be their servants in the future as well. This isn't a situation that just happened over night by happenstance.

But re: "no holds barred", perhaps it does end up being violent -- but nobody here is inciting civil war or claiming violence as the only effective strategy, not that I've seen and certainly not myself. When I say "no holds barred", what I mean is we have to go at them with a vengeance. It's totally absurd to think that we can reason and reach accord with these people through reasonable compromise. They don't care about the little people and are happy with the notion of thinning the herd. They are out to get us. We need to pull together and fight back with every tool we have. When we regain control (which I believe we will -- if we unite and rise up in force against them in 2018 and 2020) we need to be willing to prosecute and penalize people for the Russia thing. We need to be tough minded about and willing to shove single payer down their throats (if we can get it down our own -- for some reason I wonder whether the Democratic Party can do that). We need to go after voter suppression with a vengeance -- and prosecute when there are violations. No more compromises. No more collegiality. No more incrementalism. None of that has worked nor will work with these people ... unless or until they say uncle. Will that day ever come?