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Hoyt

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13. I'm not overly worried about that. Employers could always reduce the benefits, cancel the plan, etc
Mon May 8, 2017, 10:11 AM
May 2017

Last edited Mon May 8, 2017, 11:25 AM - Edit history (1)

But most did not, especially when they were in competition for employees.

Now, I am worried that today's economics make it more difficult for employers to maintain a decent plan. Sometimes, it's because the owners are just too stingy. So screw them. Other times, it's because they are a small employer who just doesn't have much room to maintain a plan.

In fact, unless things have changed from decades ago, pre-existing conditions were not an issue in employer group health plans as far as the premiums someone with diabetes paid vs. those without, although if every employee has diabetes or something serious, the group's plan costs were more in future years. But group health plans did not charge a higher premium to individuals because of pre-existing conditions.

Whatever, it is time to clean all this crud up and make a standard plan -- kind of like with Medicare supplements where if you buy Plan F, you know exactly what you are getting whichever company you buy it from.

The easiest way to clean it up would be single payer, with Medicare the model. But that won't be happening any time soon.

Yes, I read that they would. So we wouldn't be protected by living in a state pnwmom May 2017 #1
Pity that this additional problem is getting NO PRESS! . . n/t annabanana May 2017 #3
rec me.. needs eyeballs..n/t annabanana May 2017 #4
yes. they would be allowed to purchase insurance across state lines underthematrix May 2017 #2
Yeah in unaffordable pools. Demsrule86 May 2017 #14
K & R pnwmom May 2017 #5
Here's an article that addresses your question. It's TERRIBLe for everyone with employer based pnwmom May 2017 #6
What it comes down to.. NO ONE'S SAFE. . . n/t annabanana May 2017 #7
Who thinks they will not do it? kentuck May 2017 #8
Clearly, instead of legislating restrictions on We the People, how about Republicans legislate BlueCaliDem May 2017 #9
That would only work if they CONSIDERED us annabanana May 2017 #10
This is why the "selling across State lines" mantra was always a crock of shit crazylikafox May 2017 #11
yep . . .n/t annabanana May 2017 #12
I'm not overly worried about that. Employers could always reduce the benefits, cancel the plan, etc Hoyt May 2017 #13
They can go after the older employees or those with expensive pre-existing conditions... Demsrule86 May 2017 #15
We had a shot if Hillary won and we took the Senate and House...but that didn't happen. Demsrule86 May 2017 #16
I agree. Healthcare, Supreme Court, Social Security, jobs, etc., all took a hit when HRC lost. Hoyt May 2017 #17
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