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lunatica

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17. I agree we need to be united
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 04:23 PM
Jul 2017

but in what way? I'm a Democrat but I've always been a Progressive which puts me somewhat on the fringe where many confuse me with far Left reactionaries, which I am decidedly not.

I live in California but I'm financially supporting Randy Bryce who is an ironworker in Wisconsin and is running against Paul Ryan. You probably already know all of this. I first heard of Bryce because a DUer from Wisconsin posted about him asking for our support. I'm sorry I can't remember who the DUer was, but his message was welcomed.

https://www.google.com/search?q=randy+bryce&oq=Randy&aqs=chrome.0.0j69i57j69i60j0l2j69i60.2638j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

I wonder how the DNC will treat Bryce. Probably not very well because they will write him off because he's a blue collar worker and a supporter of Sanders in the Presidential elections.

I always vote Democratic, and will never vote for a Republican. My lifelong reason for this is because when you vote for a Democrat you're voting for a person but when you vote for a Republican you vote for the entire party and party line. It is a party line that I loathe and which has become incredibly toxic to our country which we are now watching as it loses its standing in the world.

But even though I'm quite loyal to the Democratic party, if only because it's supposed to stand for true equality and universal benefits and opportunities for everyone, I am seeing that's not true anymore. The DNC has moved too far to the Right, when what it should do is move further Left. In the Progressive direction where the European style Democratic Socialism guarantees far more beneficial lifestyles for all citizens. You can't do that if you're straddling the middle divide of both parties.

I'm 68 years old and I've seen every single group gain rights in my life. It's been a true uphill struggle with what I think are downhill outcomes. As a nation Americans have pushed those societal boulders up the hill and reach the summit and now we should be coasting downhill, with more and more groups and people benefitting and luxuriating in their hard won rights and benefits. But for the last 17 years, from the time Bush was selected by the Supreme Justices there has been a concentrated effort to roll back any rights that were gained in my lifetime. President Obama came in and could have reversed all that if there hadn't been such a concerted effort to neutralize him, but one good thing is that our Gay brothers and Sisters finally gained their equality on all levels because the Democratic Party was running the country.

But now we have someone who the RNC views as a useful bull in a china shop destroying everything in his path. I think, though, that they're incredibly stupid in their conceit, because it could well be that he destroys the RNC too. He is destroying much of our government, especially the parts that are good for this country simply by starving them of leadership. the result is they wither on the vine. If anyone wants to know why Trump's supporters are still supporting him the answer is that he's doing what they want. He's destroying our government. Blowing it up spectacularly. Except that in their shortsightedness they haven't thought far enough into the future to know what they want to replace it with. A good analogy is that like the GOP they are all for repealing, but have nothing to replace it with.

Sorry for the long windedness, but that's the reaction I have to your posts. I support the DNC but don't necessarily feel I'm being supported by it. I supported Sanders, but that didn't mean I hate Hillary or that I would never accept her. Among the many things I like about Hillary is her concern with universal healthcare and I'm sure she would never take our rights away. Part of her is Progressive. I am proud to have voted for her.



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Bag Production [View all] H2O Man Jul 2017 OP
United we will--divided we lose. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2017 #1
Thanks! H2O Man Jul 2017 #4
I think your last paragraph and a number of your references are spot on. NCTraveler Jul 2017 #2
Thank you. H2O Man Jul 2017 #5
Strongly disagree The Mouth Jul 2017 #44
Let's Work Together panader0 Jul 2017 #3
Very good! H2O Man Jul 2017 #6
"United We Stand" has to be the Dem motto and yelled out loud and clear and incessantly! BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #7
Well said! H2O Man Jul 2017 #8
I'm with you both on this RainCaster Jul 2017 #10
Thanks. H2O Man Jul 2017 #11
Great post. And I guess I am a true Beatles fan - saw your OP title and thought immediately of NRaleighLiberal Jul 2017 #9
Thank you! H2O Man Jul 2017 #12
Well said, sir. Too bad that there are many who don't get the message. GoneOffShore Jul 2017 #13
Thank you. H2O Man Jul 2017 #14
K&R. nt tblue37 Jul 2017 #15
Thank you, tblue37! H2O Man Jul 2017 #16
I agree we need to be united lunatica Jul 2017 #17
Thank you for this. H2O Man Jul 2017 #21
My feeling is that it will be us who vote for Progressive leaning people such as Bryce lunatica Jul 2017 #28
Jerry Brown H2O Man Jul 2017 #29
K&R... spanone Jul 2017 #18
Thank you! H2O Man Jul 2017 #22
Very well written and to the point! burrowowl Jul 2017 #19
Principles. H2O Man Jul 2017 #23
Very good Post...during the two elections in he 80's we lost badly...Mondale and Dukakis... Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #20
Thank you. H2O Man Jul 2017 #24
Some grudges will never go away. Foamfollower Jul 2017 #25
True. H2O Man Jul 2017 #26
For some, all that is left is bitterness Foamfollower Jul 2017 #27
It's a choice. H2O Man Jul 2017 #30
Most who vote for Trump were BITTER Foamfollower Jul 2017 #32
Interesting. H2O Man Jul 2017 #33
Why do you say that? G_j Jul 2017 #35
You are right. H2O Man Jul 2017 #40
But grown-ups PUT them away to get shit done. Iggo Jul 2017 #31
It's a process. H2O Man Jul 2017 #34
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If it were not H2O Man Jul 2017 #37
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Muskie was angry H2O Man Jul 2017 #39
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Interesting. H2O Man Jul 2017 #42
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