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emulatorloo

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44. "I'm spending the majority of my political time in the real world" suggested to me you maybe
Sun Jul 23, 2017, 08:25 PM
Jul 2017

had better things to do and skipped DU during 2016.

I've been around since '03 so we're both old timers. DU back then kept me sane.

I will tell you that I personally regret hanging around DU 2016! It was poisonous and I wished I had not stayed.

Have admired Bernie for a very long time, and was very happy when he decided to run. No one explains issues like income inequality better than Bernie. Bernie was my candidate in the primary.
I may have told you I always support and donate if I can to the person with the most left leaning positions in the primary. And then support and knock doors for the nominees.

Bernie is the first candidate in a long long time that I felt so close to in terms of political ideology. That was so exciting.

"Believe me, I, and others, have not forgotten. Nor, in many cases, forgiven"

I had a serious problem with alleged Bernie supporters on DU using right-wing sources like Fox, Washington Times, and even Breitbart on occasion to smear Democrats in 2016. I had a serious problem when Republican hack Joe DiGenova was treated as a "truth Teller" and slobbered over.

I call them alleged because one doesn't support a man of integrity like Bernie by using egregious right-wing sources the man would hate and despise. A fellow DU Bernie supporter called them "Bernie Detractors" because they detracted from the message of Senator Sanders.

There was plenty of garbage on the other "side" which bothered me. But I expected integrity on our "side" that I didn't necessarily expect from them. It's more complicated probably but:

No leftist I know in real life gets in bed with right-wingers to smear Democrats. One argues policy, one argues strategy. But one never applies right-wing smears.

I still have some anger w Bernie's campaign staff. IMHO Weaver's inexperience and poor decisions had a fair amount to do with Bernie not winning the nomination. He's a great friend and supporter of Bernie but not suited or experienced enough to run A lost opportunity.

At any rate you're right. Time to forgive, or at least let go. And set the personal aside for good of all.

Take care and





The term "neoliberal" has been basterdized to the point of no return. NCTraveler Jul 2017 #1
If you use the term "neoliberal", IMO you've lost the argument. LisaM Jul 2017 #2
I disagree. It means a LOT, but it can be summed up.......... socialist_n_TN Jul 2017 #3
Yes. LWolf Jul 2017 #8
Folks used the term "neo-liberal" on DU'ers who are adamantly against trickle-down and privatization emulatorloo Jul 2017 #10
The manipulating LWolf Jul 2017 #12
I've beem called neoliberal... Adrahil Jul 2017 #13
No I am saying progressives and left-liberals at DU were called 'neo-liberals' emulatorloo Jul 2017 #14
Thanks. LWolf Jul 2017 #37
Dunno if you were here in 2016, but it was self-described 'progressives' pushing the false divide emulatorloo Jul 2017 #39
I've been here since '02. LWolf Jul 2017 #43
"I'm spending the majority of my political time in the real world" suggested to me you maybe emulatorloo Jul 2017 #44
No. LWolf Jul 2017 #45
Thanks for a dose of reality. nt PufPuf23 Jul 2017 #17
Excellent post. Thank you. nt Doremus Jul 2017 #21
Good explanation. Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2017 #28
I think the reality is that LWolf Jul 2017 #38
then it doesn't apply to anyone to the left of Paul Ryan, and it's very puzzling why it geek tragedy Jul 2017 #16
Obama and Clinton both bought into the neo-liberal mindset......... socialist_n_TN Jul 2017 #19
However... yallerdawg Jul 2017 #25
The PROC is NOT a model for Marxism........ socialist_n_TN Jul 2017 #35
Is there any functioning model left? Was there ever any? yallerdawg Jul 2017 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author ymetca Jul 2017 #31
Obama managed to be a Socialist Alinskyite geek tragedy Jul 2017 #33
I've never seen a real, card-carrying, dues paying socialist.......... socialist_n_TN Jul 2017 #34
He was also a Muslim who had a Crazy Christian preacher at his church! emulatorloo Jul 2017 #40
+1 leftstreet Jul 2017 #30
Well, since I'veh heard it applied to me and to other HRC voters... LisaM Jul 2017 #11
Not a meaningless label at all. You can pretend that it is but that's a surprising behavior Doremus Jul 2017 #23
Meaningless in that it has been misapplied one too many times in 2016 emulatorloo Jul 2017 #41
Totally. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #26
With Thomas Friedman, it's kind of deserved. HughBeaumont Jul 2017 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Jul 2017 #5
In my experience, people who use the term "neo-liberal" don't actually know what it means. Foamfollower Jul 2017 #6
Yep Means in favor of trickle down economics and privatization. To people who use it, means emulatorloo Jul 2017 #9
I always think Libertarians ismnotwasm Jul 2017 #7
one of those words that mean whatever the person using it want it to mean, e.g. "corporatist" geek tragedy Jul 2017 #15
Slapping a stupid label on everything and everyone to discredit them is the height of intellectual Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #18
If "neoliberal" means fiscal conservative, social liberal, and pro free trade taught_me_patience Jul 2017 #20
What's a "fiscal conservative" and how does it jive with Democratic principles? nt Doremus Jul 2017 #24
A counter to the GOP principle of running up huge deficits while cutting taxes on rich people emulatorloo Jul 2017 #42
When I read neoliberal definition Dem2 Jul 2017 #22
I find those that use the term neoliberal Eko Jul 2017 #27
Neolution is the real danger tirebiter Jul 2017 #29
Neoliberal replaced Third Way as the popular mindless go-to insult 'cause it has more syllables betsuni Jul 2017 #32
Ms. Peyser put out a call to the wrong people. LWolf Jul 2017 #46
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