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In reply to the discussion: HRC would have been a great president...but she's never going to run again. [View all]Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)101. I agree with all that you said there about what we need to do.
Last edited Sat Jul 29, 2017, 04:03 AM - Edit history (1)
And I don't personally blame her. I assign responsibility for the result to the flawed strategic decisions that occurred in the campaign-particularly the decision that most of the campaign ads should be attack ads about Trump.
We knew immediately that the attack ads weren't working. Why ever bother doing a second round of them when the first round failed?
The ads should have been about nothing but our proposals and our platform.
We'd have won the EC if we'd just focused on winning the argument.
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HRC would have been a great president...but she's never going to run again. [View all]
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
OP
The fools running our country are providing me with an endless amount of ammo.
Weekend Warrior
Jul 2017
#36
I think recognizing places problems with our long standing focus is also reasonable
loyalsister
Jul 2017
#4
I don't know if any jobs came from that (hope they did) but it's untrue that the Dems didn't address
LisaM
Jul 2017
#134
When has she ever said that? That's not an assumption people are making about the men who ran. n/t
pnwmom
Jul 2017
#6
There wasn't anything wrong with her campaign. She would have lost due to Russian hacking
pnwmom
Jul 2017
#21
Wisconsin's voter ID law suppressed 200K votes in 2016. DT won by less than 23K.
pnwmom
Jul 2017
#46
And again, there is no debate about the important of fighting voter suppression.
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#57
Am I? No. My state doesn't have a voter ID law. We have all mail-in. If you are a Democrat,
pnwmom
Jul 2017
#123
And again I'm asking: why are you saying "you" and "they" instead of "we" and "us"?
pnwmom
Jul 2017
#128
You live in the state, I don't. So why do you keep blaming me instead of yourself?
pnwmom
Jul 2017
#131
No, there is a big difference. After we register, we don't have to bring an ID to vote.
pnwmom
Jul 2017
#136
And how do you think your perfect candidate will overcome even greater voter suppression
pnwmom
Jul 2017
#107
We can't win by pretending the Russians won't interfere again or that voter suppression
delisen
Jul 2017
#28
I signed up. I'll go to the next meeting they have. That puts the Indivisible thing to rest.
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#85
I know what people in the real world do. I've worked in politics for decades And I did sign up.
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#115
This is like your 5 millionth post saying the same thing you have been saying since last Nov.
seaglass
Jul 2017
#10
So have you given up on strengthening third parties and weakening the Democratic Party?
Gothmog
Jul 2017
#69
after 4 (or, heaven forbid, 8) years of Trump & friends the platform will need to change
0rganism
Jul 2017
#22
"And we can't win in 2018 or 2020 simply by saying "we only lost in 2016 because of ..."
LenaBaby61
Jul 2017
#33
I will just drop this here: Remember how Bill Clinton, Al Gore, were treated by Democrats here?
nikibatts
Jul 2017
#37
So it is ok to blame the Democratic party for the loss, but under no circumstances should we bring
still_one
Jul 2017
#39
I've never once said that we shouldn't talk about the Russians and the Comey effect
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#58
If a Hillary Clinton falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
betsuni
Jul 2017
#41
Strengthening third parties or weakening the Democratic Party are not viable options
Gothmog
Jul 2017
#63
And I don't support weakening the Democratic Party. What I support would strengthen it.
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#92
Strengthening third parties is a really stupid idea that would hurt the Democratic party
Gothmog
Jul 2017
#93
Woulda shoulda coulda... finding fault, laying blame and looking backward again?
NurseJackie
Jul 2017
#141
We have to acknowledge what didn't work last time if we are to do better next time.
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#151
Actually... we have to acknowledge that looking back is not the same a moving forward.
NurseJackie
Jul 2017
#155
I'm not obsessing about the past. I'm not refighting. I'm not attacking anybody
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#158
You aren't "challenging" anybody. You are talking down to people and treating them like children
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#164
Yeah right. Rephrase, reword, whatever. You don't have to use the word "blame" to ...
NurseJackie
Jul 2017
#154
The harm is in seeing Populism as the "answer" when Populism is the problem.
Expecting Rain
Jul 2017
#124