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pnwmom

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64. Unfortunately, people with less than half a brain still get a full vote,

Wed Aug 9, 2017, 11:25 PM

Aug 2017

and some posters here, influenced by propaganda at RT, voted for Stein or not at all.

They were not allowed to campaign for her here, but they did over at JPR.

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Demanding uncritical fealty to a media personality [View all] BainsBane Aug 2017 OP

I'm seeing weird stuff like "If you disagree w Mr X on statement Y, you clearly hate Unions!" emulatorloo Aug 2017 #1

It's that sort of thing exactly BainsBane Aug 2017 #4

THANK you, Hartmann is the king of non-sequiturs and bizarre leaps R B Garr Aug 2017 #26

To clarify my comment wasn't about Thom so much emulatorloo Aug 2017 #33

I hate that kind of BS too. Alice11111 Aug 2017 #51

"Hartman's statements justifying Russian interference in elections in the West demonstrate as much." NurseJackie Aug 2017 #2

Outstanding! Leith Aug 2017 #3

A thread of great minds. Duppers Aug 2017 #10

"demands of fealty" sheshe2 Aug 2017 #5

Thom Hartman wryter2000 Aug 2017 #6

Thank you for posting this. Maven Aug 2017 #7

I have listened to Thom Hartman for about 10 years now and I always thought of him as being world wide wally Aug 2017 #8

Answer is--he said nothing supporting Russia in the elections. Akamai Aug 2017 #18

Your OP BainsBane Aug 2017 #23

Here's the controversial Russian discussion Bradical79 Aug 2017 #38

Excellent!! Duppers Aug 2017 #9

recognizing an ally is not the same as ProfessorPlum Aug 2017 #11

Recognizing when an ally has become no longer an ally is tough Hekate Aug 2017 #12

apparently not too tough ProfessorPlum Aug 2017 #14

Yes it does! hrmjustin Aug 2017 #16

Only to launch a "counteroffensive" BainsBane Aug 2017 #24

As long as one does not assume BainsBane Aug 2017 #19

Well, he's not an ally Bradical79 Aug 2017 #39

Your mileage may vary, of course ProfessorPlum Aug 2017 #40

Fair enough -nt Bradical79 Aug 2017 #42

True. I recall a few years ago treestar Aug 2017 #13

K & R SunSeeker Aug 2017 #15

I've only seen a few threads about Hartmann leftstreet Aug 2017 #17

I didn't claim it was BainsBane Aug 2017 #21

Who are this people and why should I care? hunter Aug 2017 #20

Do you care that the Kremlin subverted democracy? BainsBane Aug 2017 #22

What democracy? Some T.V. democracy? It's not real. hunter Aug 2017 #25

Are you saying Russian election interference isn't real? BainsBane Aug 2017 #32

No. hunter Aug 2017 #41

I don't appreciate the efforts to normalize it BainsBane Aug 2017 #44

Our Constitutional democracy. With all its flaws, we've never had a Presidential election pnwmom Aug 2017 #58

Oh come on LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #27

Excellent points Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #31

"The idea that Hartmann is some kind of double agent propagandist for Putin is absurd. " emulatorloo Aug 2017 #34

How, exactly, is a show on RT "removed" from RT? mcar Aug 2017 #36

He has his own daily YouTube show LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #46

Also on RT mcar Aug 2017 #47

Ask him. Maybe you should check it out LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #55

"The Big Picture with Thom Hartmann is filmed live and broadcast from the RT America studios ucrdem Aug 2017 #69

K&R! Thank you! R B Garr Aug 2017 #28

I have seen no evidence of this claim Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #29

I have read similar things about The Nation, and similar suggestions of a fealty to Russia. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #30

Thank you LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #43

You agree there is BainsBane Aug 2017 #71

If this is indeed the crux of your argument, guillaumeb Aug 2017 #80

Transparent deflection BainsBane Aug 2017 #81

First, if you insist on the allegation regarding Clinton, how can I take your guillaumeb Aug 2017 #82

"proof of fealty to Russia" BainsBane Aug 2017 #74

Russian intervention is all "speculation," you insist. BainsBane Aug 2017 #78

The worship of these figures by some is just bizarre mcar Aug 2017 #35

As is the belief by some that media commentators LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #45

Several OPs here in the last few days mcar Aug 2017 #48

You are sure are dedicated to ensuring BainsBane Aug 2017 #75

Yes. Worship. ProfessorPlum Aug 2017 #50

There are other possible explanations BainsBane Aug 2017 #70

I agree strongly or disagree strongly! SethH Aug 2017 #37

Still waiting Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #49

Here BainsBane Aug 2017 #54

I had read both of those threads and they do not support your claims Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #57

Listen rock Aug 2017 #52

They say that Hartmann doesn't post here anymore, but I wonder if that's true? Maybe he just..... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #53

Just because someone managed to get a show on RT does not mean they are Russian shills or pro-Trump LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #56

It means they are lending their name, and helping to validate as a news source, RT. pnwmom Aug 2017 #59

Meh, I think the trade off is worth it LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #60

"Everyone" does NOT know that. Till last year, people here frequently posted things by RT, pnwmom Aug 2017 #61

Ok not 'everyone'. Everyone with half a brain LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #63

Unfortunately, people with less than half a brain still get a full vote, pnwmom Aug 2017 #64

You presume wrong BainsBane Aug 2017 #62

All I saw from your link is someone expousing a reason, not an excuse, why Russia has felt betrayed LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #65

You missed the point completely BainsBane Aug 2017 #68

Yes! I saw Hartmann's show on YouTube - does that mean that YouTube is in bed with Russia now? diva77 Aug 2017 #72

Jesus BainsBane Aug 2017 #73

I would appreciate a link to info. you are giving. diva77 Aug 2017 #76

Who demanded that? melman Aug 2017 #66

You're as capable of reading the responses in this thread as anyone else BainsBane Aug 2017 #67

....aint gonna happen for many of us Warpy Aug 2017 #77

HE's TEEVEE star + he's rich. so he MUST be shmart! he sounds JUST LIKE RAYGUN! pansypoo53219 Aug 2017 #79