Demanding uncritical fealty to a media personality

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78. Russian intervention is all "speculation," you insist.

To suggest that nothing has yet been proven about the stories of Russian interference in the 2016 election is not to deny the possibility, it merely states that absent actual evidence, this is all speculation.

To suggest that nothing has been proven is a lie, a blatant and malicious lie. There has been extensive testimony before congress by dozens of intelligence officials. Government reports have been issues. There has been extensive reporting about hacking into state elections rolls and deleting voter registrations. There have been grand juries impaneled, search warrants and subpoenas. You come to this site every day. Tell me how you managed to avoid hundreds if not thousands of articles on Russian intervention, detailing Trump administration officials’ involvement? Why do you think the GOP Senate has been holding hearings on the matter? Why are they and Robert Mueller investigating obstruction of Justice and collusion with Russia? If Russia did not intervene, how can there been investigations into collusion? Why does every single intelligence official in this country and intelligence agencies abroad all concur there is no doubt that Russia intervened?


I am appalled, absolutely appalled that you would make such a claim. The only people who deny Russian involvement in the election are Trump, Putin, the most stupid of the Trump supporters (not even all or most of them) and the fascist collaborators of JPR and their ilk. The commonality between all of them is a determination to prop up Trump and ensure the spread of White Nationalism through the West. It is a posture based on intense, all consuming hatred of immigrants, people of color, women, Democrats, and anyone who opposes authoritarianism. There is NO ONE with any integrity or honesty that adopts such a position. Trump and Putin know full well the Russians intervened. They were actively involved in it. The rest seek are engaged in a pernicious agenda to promote them.

Even Fox and the alt-right media no longer deny the Russian interference or the collusion. They have moved on to argue that collusion with Russia isn't so bad after all. Yet for some reason you think it acceptable to willfully ignore the last several months of Senate testimony and press exposes, even the emails released by Trump Jr himself documenting intervention and collusion, to pretend none of that exist.
No one does that out of concern for evidence. They do it out of contempt for evidence and truth.


So far you have gone around this site insisting women need to give up reproductive rights so that YOU and can "win' (not us, since women are to be excluded the body politic). Evidence for the claim that subjugating half the population to second-class citizenship is a "winning" strategy didn't concern you in the slightest, nor did all of the evidence showing the connection between denial of reproductive rights and increased poverty and high death rates. Evidence wasn't a concern for the fascist collaboration on JPR when it came to blaming Clinton for Seth Rich's death or running a pedophile ring out of pizza shop.

But when it comes to something that is the subject of dozens of investigations by the Senate, House, FBI, the Treasury Department, Counter Terrorism, etc..., that has produced documentation, hours and hours of testimony, all of which is evidence that you deny exists.

Clearly evidence isn't a concern in terms of undermining abortion rights because those advocating it want to see women reduced to second class citizenship. When it comes to Russian intervention in the elections, no evidence is sufficient and will ever be sufficient because those justifying it are more concerned with validating Trump's victory than their own intellectual honesty. There is no conceivable reason any Democrat, progressive, liberal, or even moderate would engage in such an agenda.