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Initech

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71. It's scary what is happening right now.

Thu Aug 24, 2017, 03:33 PM

Aug 2017

The hate and blood lust that's come out of the far right in the last year and a half has been absolutely disturbing. And so much of it is coming from young people. If you are fed a constant cycle of fear, hate, and misinformation for 40 years, you will get a generation that embraces Hitler.

Since the election I've been thinking of that line from Star Wars where Master Yoda says "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.". America fully embraces the Dark Side under Trump, and we saw that in Virginia. We had fear under the Bush administration. Then we saw the anger come out of the republicans against Obama in full force. Now with Trump, that anger turned to hate. What comes after hate?

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I will not forgive [View all] BainsBane Aug 2017 OP

HELLS TO THE YEAH! cilla4progress Aug 2017 #1

+1.437 Million TheBlackAdder Aug 2017 #35

I understand and feel the same way. Doreen Aug 2017 #2

This is a new one for me too. I have always tried, for my own mental health, to let go of Squinch Aug 2017 #18

Some weren't just lazy FLPanhandle Aug 2017 #20

They did it to install the fascist in power BainsBane Aug 2017 #32

I'm Irish. We might forgive. We never forget. Warpy Aug 2017 #3

It just gets more difficult every day radical noodle Aug 2017 #4

Same here N/T SonofDonald Aug 2017 #96

you said it good... dhill926 Aug 2017 #5

it's important to also point out why people voted the way they did JI7 Aug 2017 #6

Absolutely! montana_hazeleyes Aug 2017 #9

Very important. We can never forget this. And we can never forget that Squinch Aug 2017 #17

exactly BainsBane Aug 2017 #22

...or forget. BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #7

Whose gonna break the news to them? jmg257 Aug 2017 #8

Only in that BainsBane Aug 2017 #26

Agree. betsuni Aug 2017 #10

+1000 brer cat Aug 2017 #11

I think more disgruntled Republicans should have gone with Johnson. HughBeaumont Aug 2017 #12

Agree. MarvinGardens Aug 2017 #102

I totally agree. Freedomofspeech Aug 2017 #13

Agree Meowmee Aug 2017 #14

That is pretty much where I am. Blue_true Aug 2017 #49

I think Meowmee Aug 2017 #64

+++++++++++ HAB911 Aug 2017 #15

I sadly agree. I try, because as you say it's not healthy, but with each new crisis that we have Squinch Aug 2017 #16

Right there with you. My "never to forgive" group includes MORE than just Republicans... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #19

I know what you mean. I hate those fuckers too. liquid diamond Aug 2017 #43

I know, and I feel the same way lunamagica Aug 2017 #69

Same tbh. nt Maven Aug 2017 #81

I've actually gotten less forgiving mcar Aug 2017 #21

Especially when I see the same propaganda BainsBane Aug 2017 #23

Deplorables deserve no pity. oasis Aug 2017 #24

All the continued blaming of Clinton pisses me off BainsBane Aug 2017 #25

Nor should you forget or forgive, because as you say, it is STILL happening. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #28

Your last paragraph was inspired, IMO. And right on target. nt Blue_true Aug 2017 #51

Thanks. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #68

Many can't see beyond their "Clinton Hate" I never could understand it. oasis Aug 2017 #31

In one day the Clinton Foundation does more for people in need than any Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #84

Ditto Ennuilyn Aug 2017 #27

Yes! msdogi Aug 2017 #29

I feel the same way. hamsterjill Aug 2017 #30

It is foolish to forgive one's abuser while the abuse is ongoing Orrex Aug 2017 #33

An excellent point BainsBane Aug 2017 #38

Now that is a statement with a lot of depth. Orrex Aug 2017 #44

I CANNOT forgive handmade34 Aug 2017 #34

yeah, pretty much this 0rganism Aug 2017 #36

I wonder what my blood pressure would read BainsBane Aug 2017 #37

I don't listen to Trump at all. Blue_true Aug 2017 #52

Oh, I avoid it, for sure BainsBane Aug 2017 #60

I had my bp taken today. I told the nurse not to tell me the results, I didn't want to hear CTyankee Aug 2017 #76

I am still pissed fwvinson Aug 2017 #39

KGB has planted agents here since the end of WWII. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #45

welcome to du niyad Aug 2017 #48

Jesus stop that. Blue_true Aug 2017 #54

The Kremlin exploited existing tendencies and divisions BainsBane Aug 2017 #57

Let's hope Mueller does his job and exposes the Fuhrer-in-Chief for the traitor he is. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #83

welcome to DU gopiscrap Aug 2017 #125

The deplorables shouldn't be forgiven, nor what they've done forgotten. jcmaine72 Aug 2017 #40

Nor will I allow them to absolve themselves. lapucelle Aug 2017 #41

I feel the same way. liquid diamond Aug 2017 #42

I am over the hurt and rage of late November 8, 2016 when it became clear Trump would win. Blue_true Aug 2017 #46

ABSOLUTELY AGREE-- as for our mental health, this is a situation where forgiving and forgetting niyad Aug 2017 #47

Never, ever, ever, ever forgive those who voted to bring true evil to our doorstep. kairos12 Aug 2017 #50

Evil is exactly what it is! BainsBane Aug 2017 #58

Ok, my friend Cary Aug 2017 #53

Truthfully, it's not a choice BainsBane Aug 2017 #56

Like I said, I wish you peace, love, and clarity. Cary Aug 2017 #61

K & effing R wryter2000 Aug 2017 #55

Yes! A thousand times Yes! R B Garr Aug 2017 #59

Some things are not... 3catwoman3 Aug 2017 #62

Particularly when those who commit them BainsBane Aug 2017 #66

The question is G_j Aug 2017 #63

Not capitulate to the people who delivered the country to fascism BainsBane Aug 2017 #65

Then thank you G_j Aug 2017 #72

YES! Phentex Aug 2017 #100

You have beautifully expressed all I feel, Bains Bane. The pain is just getting worse. lunamagica Aug 2017 #67

I feel your pain! lark Aug 2017 #70

It's scary what is happening right now. Initech Aug 2017 #71

Good questions BainsBane Aug 2017 #73

bernie bot pamdb Aug 2017 #74

yes, regardless of primary preference BainsBane Aug 2017 #75

Nor will I. old guy Aug 2017 #77

trying to cope without forgiving recovering_democrat Aug 2017 #78

Yes, I know it's unhealthy to hang on to resentment BainsBane Aug 2017 #79

I regret that I have one rec to give. Maven Aug 2017 #80

You and the rest of us have every right to be angry...the Fuhrer-in-Chief is destroying the country. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #82

they can all fuck themselves Skittles Aug 2017 #85

A simple kick and recommend isn't enough.. JHan Aug 2017 #86

We warned them repeatedly BainsBane Aug 2017 #92

Thank you. Your post helped me see my own rage and lack of forgiveness RandomAccess Aug 2017 #87

Self pity BainsBane Aug 2017 #98

The Greenwaldian alt-left isn't just about Kremlin/GOP propaganda, radius777 Aug 2017 #99

Only it's an economic view centered entirely on the middle to upper-middle class BainsBane Aug 2017 #108

I agree, it's also political hipsterism and pre-60's nostalgia radius777 Aug 2017 #123

Yes, White women too BainsBane Aug 2017 #124

If you're putting me in that categoy RandomAccess Aug 2017 #109

gee, i thought we didn't use that term "alt-left" here at DU. nt m-lekktor Aug 2017 #111

The term has been used since the primaries, radius777 Aug 2017 #122

Just so you know -- RandomAccess Aug 2017 #107

I beg to differ BainsBane Aug 2017 #115

Yeah, me too RandomAccess Aug 2017 #117

Did that poster say the targets and victims of the nazi's, led by trump, are engaging in Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #112

I think what the poster was saying radius777 Aug 2017 #120

No, not at all what the poster is saying, in my opinion. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #121

Neither will I Progressive dog Aug 2017 #88

I'm not real good about forgiving the unrepentant but.... TomSlick Aug 2017 #89

We shouldn't forgive. If we did, they'd think it was no biggie and do it again. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #90

Thank you. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2017 #91

It's hard to forgive those who do not confess Jakes Progress Aug 2017 #93

I so agree with that BainsBane Aug 2017 #94

Confess and repent. Sin no more. WheelWalker Aug 2017 #114

I think the point is BainsBane Aug 2017 #116

I think you are confusing me with someone else, as well as misunderstanding my post. WheelWalker Aug 2017 #118

I never will either. Starry Messenger Aug 2017 #95

How can we forgive those MontanaMama Aug 2017 #97

But, what about Hillarys emails? Funtatlaguy Aug 2017 #101

K&R Jamaal510 Aug 2017 #103

BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! heaven05 Aug 2017 #104

co-signed Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #105

We should eventually forgive, but now might not be the time. MarvinGardens Aug 2017 #106

What if someone regrets voting for Trump? Willie Pep Aug 2017 #110

I hope they learn from their mistakes BainsBane Aug 2017 #113

You have MANY fans at Discussionist. One of them even posts here as a certain legume. beaglelover Aug 2017 #119

Meh BainsBane Aug 2017 #127

me neither...anyone who didnt vote for the dem candidate in November... samnsara Aug 2017 #126