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barbtries

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8. thank you Bright.

Sun Aug 27, 2017, 07:53 PM

Aug 2017

I would like to add that this is a natural disaster (probably exacerbated by feckless oil and MIC dickheads and republicans going way way back).

Nonetheless, this storm was wrought by mother nature. this was going to be bad. I knew it a couple days ago, just a couple days ago. City, county, federal officials knew about it when? your post is spot on. there was no good answer to this storm, there couldn't be because it is a devastating storm.

been watching coverage for about 4 hours straight. this is an absolute catastrophe and i just hope the toll does not match Rita or Katrina, but the volume of water being poured on the Houston area is unprecedented in my life and I am apprehensive for so many people. Such a big city. as one person wrote on twitter this morning, "heart breaking in real time."

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Two words for those who're flinging shade at Houston municipal officials: Hurricane Rita [View all] TygrBright Aug 2017 OP

K&R ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #1

What the OP failed to mention Cryptoad Sep 2017 #79

Well said. narnian60 Aug 2017 #2

Exactly! Phoenix61 Aug 2017 #3

Thank you, TygrBright angel823 Aug 2017 #4

Thanks, angel823. Stay safe. Keep us updated on you and your family. n/t TygrBright Aug 2017 #6

like after katrina republican talk radio will be used to blame dems certainot Sep 2017 #82

I live here OBrien Aug 2017 #5

IMO their state and local governments are doing an outstanding job of keeping deaths to a minimum. appleannie1943 Aug 2017 #7

And that's really what it's about TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #20

thank you Bright. barbtries Aug 2017 #8

It is heartbreaking. TygrBright Aug 2017 #15

So far, 9 trillion gallons of water. It's the Kobayashi Maru of disaster scenarios. Turn CO Blue Aug 2017 #9

One journo said: "Harvey's trying to pick up the whole damn' Gulf and dump it on the Big Bend." n/t TygrBright Aug 2017 #10

Exactly. It was a no-win scenario even two days beforehand - for all the reasons you state Turn CO Blue Aug 2017 #19

What does this have to do with Bob Loblaw Aug 2017 #11

When I lived in Houston .. ananda Aug 2017 #12

Most of the people who stay in their homes have a lot of pets or can't afford a hotel. I used to kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2017 #13

Add to that martigras Aug 2017 #14

Not true re: zoning TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #58

Those people should have watched the Mayor's press conference just a few minutes ago... George II Aug 2017 #16

I saw that on MSNBC SCVDem Aug 2017 #22

I also think people not from Texas have no idea how big Houston is. alarimer Aug 2017 #69

It is possible that the mayor saved more lives by not issuing a mandatory evacuation. SweetieD Aug 2017 #17

KNR Lucinda Aug 2017 #18

Mayor Turner has lived in Houston for decades GETPLANING Aug 2017 #21

Also, there was very little notice More_Cowbell Aug 2017 #23

They had time to evacuate. Igel Aug 2017 #27

and let's say theoretically...that an evacuation was called a WEEK in advance... steve2470 Aug 2017 #24

What about security? KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2017 #38

excellent point nt steve2470 Aug 2017 #40

People in Houston ,,,, Cryptoad Aug 2017 #25

Too many like to find some one to blame. Cattledog Aug 2017 #26

May I... syringis Aug 2017 #28

Unfortunately, some blaming is already happening. Thanks for your well wishes, syringis! pnwmom Aug 2017 #37

I evacuated from the Beaumont area during Rita. Our area has about 300,000 residents Dustlawyer Aug 2017 #29

And too, there's a certain irony... zentrum Aug 2017 #30

Mexico is number 32 in crime rate rankings zentrum Aug 2017 #31

i would add, without reading the thread yet, KatyMan Aug 2017 #32

Thank you Dopers_Greed Aug 2017 #33

+1 onenote Aug 2017 #34

Katrina saw many people evacuated by the Feds to other states. WinkyDink Aug 2017 #35

Thank you. Horse with no Name Aug 2017 #36

There are too many armchair FEMA employees. EllieBC Aug 2017 #39

Evacuating major cities isn't all that easy. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2017 #41

Exactly. Houston knows what it's doing. Evacuations are dangerous in & of themselves. Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #42

Amen! Thank you for this post. Catherine Vincent Aug 2017 #43

K & R SunSeeker Aug 2017 #44

K & R. Nt Heartstrings Aug 2017 #45

The proper way is phased mandatory evacuations Lee-Lee Aug 2017 #46

I've been through manditory evacuation drills like that. And through manditory evacuations. haele Aug 2017 #67

Your last paragraph says it all. 7962 Aug 2017 #74

New Orleans lost about half of its population after Katrina greymattermom Aug 2017 #47

Republicans Global warming & Climate change is real. 30-40 inches of rain in 3 days is HERE to STAY. Sunlei Aug 2017 #48

Houston Mayor Turner made the right call,... Jimbo101 Aug 2017 #49

there's also US290 going towards Aus but that's been hit with closures and ongoing construction work onetexan Aug 2017 #50

On One Of The Sunday Shows (can't remember which one) Me. Aug 2017 #51

This hurricane is not out of line in frequency or power with regular hurricane patterns. AtheistCrusader Aug 2017 #52

That is incorrect dbackjon Aug 2017 #57

You can't credibly describe this as 1000 year flooding. 1000 years ago the houston impermeable surfa AtheistCrusader Aug 2017 #62

Yes, the development is a major issue with the drainage dbackjon Aug 2017 #70

True, for the long game, it's critical to keep the climate perspective. AtheistCrusader Aug 2017 #71

Saw this today dbackjon Aug 2017 #73

Same thing happened in Ga in '94; that flood was "only" a tropical storm. it didnt move. 7962 Aug 2017 #77

See this breakdown of how climate change factors affect intensity and behavior of storms... TygrBright Aug 2017 #61

I read that. Some problems with it. AtheistCrusader Aug 2017 #64

As in building at or below flood levels, or even sea level ( New Orleans) 7962 Aug 2017 #75

K&R Lithos Aug 2017 #53

The republicans say we need smaller government. usaf-vet Aug 2017 #54

yeah, 3 mil people on the road to where? that place could be worse! Motley13 Aug 2017 #55

Sort of like the movie Independence Day. Blue_true Aug 2017 #59

Anyone who has ever lived in Houston knows that the city can be evacuated McCamy Taylor Aug 2017 #56

Harvey went from a tropical depression to a Cat 3 hurricane in 48 hours TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #60

Yeap, between a rock and a hard place uponit7771 Aug 2017 #63

"Well we screwed it up before so why try" isn't a strong policy base Lee-Lee Aug 2017 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Aug 2017 #66

It was a tropical storm on Wednesday alarimer Aug 2017 #68

Yes. It went from a tropical depression to Cat3 in 48 hours TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #80

Perfectly said. Just perfect. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #72

Since Houston can never be evacuated, but it is the most vulnerable city to climate change Not Ruth Aug 2017 #76

the teevee gnewz must 2nd guess at all times. 30 vs 100, i'd say the mayor got it right, but as a di pansypoo53219 Aug 2017 #78

What prevented the governor from ordering evacuation? keithbvadu2 Sep 2017 #81

Nobody cares what that fuckwad thinks. PDittie Sep 2017 #83

Because ir wasn't a hurricane obamanut2012 Sep 2017 #85

Really the only way to go was north. Demtexan Sep 2017 #84