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63. No, we don't think of non-voting and Stein voting clowns as progressives.

Fri Sep 8, 2017, 09:25 AM

Sep 2017

That's the point. Those who attack the Democratic Party constantly and aid Republican victories are "regressives."

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Bernie backers' attacks on Democrats infuriate the party [View all] TexasTowelie Sep 2017 OP

Ooh, another Bernie bashing thread? Kentonio Sep 2017 #1

How so? Which part? I didn't see anything that was "bashing Bernie". NurseJackie Sep 2017 #3

Compared to the pretty vicious attacks mcar Sep 2017 #9

How dare you not suck up to the Bernie-Bros? The Democrats need their votes!!! DetlefK Sep 2017 #16

Russians, Kochs, agents like Bannon are the big issue -- Pro trollers are using Bernie posts Hortensis Sep 2017 #135

Yeah (looks at watch), must be Friday. HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #12

'They don't seem to get that they're hanging ALL of us with this horseshit' melman Sep 2017 #25

You're right. But considering the subject line, remember who the "they" are. George II Sep 2017 #58

It is the determination to defend everything BainsBane Sep 2017 #176

No, we don't think of non-voting and Stein voting clowns as progressives. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #63

I attack them for not supporting multi-payer and shitting on progressive positions. HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #75

Don't you want an answer from Bernie on why Vermont doesn't have single payer? R B Garr Sep 2017 #79

That's a pretty simple answer; they didn't have the votes. Gore1FL Sep 2017 #125

That's not the only or real reason. And no excuses, especially if you shame R B Garr Sep 2017 #126

Sanders isn't a member of the VT legislature. Gore1FL Sep 2017 #144

You don't have to be a "member" of anything to influence, right? He's not a "member" R B Garr Sep 2017 #149

He's a member of the left coalition. As Democrat I am OK with it. Gore1FL Sep 2017 #152

He needs to be honest with voters about why Vermont doesn't have single payer. R B Garr Sep 2017 #158

Speaking of "Good Democrats" . . . . HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #162

VT doesn't have single payer because of the reasons outlined. It has nothing to do with Sanders Gore1FL Sep 2017 #173

It would not be difficult for Sanders to explain why Vermont does not have single payer. R B Garr Sep 2017 #175

He could easily. I did. They didn't have the votes. Gore1FL Sep 2017 #177

"They didn't have the votes." That's a passive voice. It's a politician's job R B Garr Sep 2017 #178

He doesn't have a position in the state legislature. Gore1FL Sep 2017 #180

This is just an excuse. Pelosi gets her votes in line. R B Garr Sep 2017 #182

... Gore1FL Sep 2017 #184

Making this personal about me is another excuse. Building coalitions is part of politics. R B Garr Sep 2017 #186

Nothing about it is personal. Gore1FL Sep 2017 #188

It hasn't been refuted. Not ever. You and others haven't refuted it. Ever. R B Garr Sep 2017 #189

Jesus Fucking Christ Gore1FL Sep 2017 #192

You could take your own advice about not wasting time. If Sanders' could not R B Garr Sep 2017 #199

Bye Felicia. nt Gore1FL Sep 2017 #201

How typical. Attempting to make things about me personally means you don't have to answer R B Garr Sep 2017 #202

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You should take your own advice. R B Garr Sep 2017 #205

You should take lessons in logic. Gore1FL Sep 2017 #206

You should take your own advice. R B Garr Sep 2017 #207

Congratulations. You won my first ignore in over 16 years of membership. nt Gore1FL Sep 2017 #208

How lame. I haven't been forcing you to post. R B Garr Sep 2017 #209

It's not his fault Vermont doesn't have single-payer. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #195

Not really. Just a quick Google shows a few reasons for the failure in Vermont. R B Garr Sep 2017 #200

I don't know anything about the Rendon recall, and that link doesn't work. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #210

OK. I checked. The governor refused, at the last minute, to implement the plan. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #211

Ugh, no, and the excuses for him are absurd. It was a test of his leadership and he failed R B Garr Sep 2017 #213

He did lead. Single-payer had been passed. The governor didn't implement. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #214

None of what you said about the governor is accurate. And none of what you said R B Garr Sep 2017 #216

Single-payer was passed in Vermont. The fight was won. It didn't lose in the legislature. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #217

LOL, Vermont doesn't have single payer. That is a fact. It was too expensive, which you R B Garr Sep 2017 #219

It was simply the governor's belief that the plan was too expensive. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #220

Nothing you are paraphrasing excuses Bernie. He can explain to people why Vermont doesn't R B Garr Sep 2017 #221

Bernie doesn't run the Vermont state government or rule the state as his personal fiefdom. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #222

Good luck on this. In this sub-thread it feels like arguing with an illogical tape recorder. Gore1FL Sep 2017 #204

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That's laughable. Vermont is one of the smallest states. Surely he can get it done R B Garr Sep 2017 #132

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That's laughable. He is supposedly so "popular", so why can't he R B Garr Sep 2017 #137

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That's laughable. If Bernie was so influential and popular, he could have R B Garr Sep 2017 #143

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But Bernie isn't a member of the Democratic party, either, yet he wants to throw his R B Garr Sep 2017 #150

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This is laughable. Bernie also has a leadership position with Vermont's R B Garr Sep 2017 #156

You'll of course, lay our the precise path for his implementing this particular policy, yes? LanternWaste Sep 2017 #139

Yes he does, all Senators and Representatives can affect legislation in their home state. George II Sep 2017 #134

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Why did he go to West Virginia to speak? George II Sep 2017 #153

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So, he holds town halls in West Virginia but doesn't address legislation in his own state? George II Sep 2017 #157

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No U.S. Senator ever lobbies his own state's legislature. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #218

Dude, posting on an open discussion forum isn't stalking. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #82

I support Democrats when they act like Democrats. HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #97

We read you loud and clear. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #99

Love that Wiki page about Joe, which calls him a "righteous tightass". R B Garr Sep 2017 #101

It's rationalwiki. HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #130

+1 leftstreet Sep 2017 #86

I'm clear. You bash DEMOCRATS at every opportunity. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #191

Joe Lieberturd was once a Democrat. HughBeaumont Sep 2017 #197

... LexVegas Sep 2017 #18

Heh. SammyWinstonJack Sep 2017 #22

Instead of reacting that way Perseus Sep 2017 #37

That's amusing Kentonio Sep 2017 #51

This is the Democratic Underground. Democrat bashers will stand opposed LuvLoogie Sep 2017 #39

Where do you see bashing in that post? Lil Missy Sep 2017 #45

Oh we're in to 'stating facts' now are we? Kentonio Sep 2017 #52

Yes, the "facts" LakeArenal Sep 2017 #80

Changing the subject does nothing for your argument. Lil Missy Sep 2017 #171

Read the article, this is about his supporters, not him. George II Sep 2017 #57

A major theme of the article is about Sanders failure comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #107

How Do We Keep Seeing This BS.... LovingA2andMI Sep 2017 #72

Note to self: "Keep reccing TexasTowelie's posts... nt stevenleser Sep 2017 #185

Maybe when they stop their shit we won't have to talk about it anymore. nini Sep 2017 #87

Any analysis or criticism of a sacred cow is considered bashing to a biased mind. LanternWaste Sep 2017 #136

And so it begins. Control-Z Sep 2017 #172

And when we feel a section of the community is trying to bully Sanders supporters into silence Kentonio Sep 2017 #196

K & fuckin R JHan Sep 2017 #2

Those who attack and smear Sen. Kamala Harris are TOTAL ASSHOLES... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #14

I've got no time for their smears on select democrats JHan Sep 2017 #23

We reject the divisive smears against Harris, yet *we* are the ones accused of being divisive?!? NurseJackie Sep 2017 #31

Some animals are more equal than others. JHan Sep 2017 #40

aMEN The Mouth Sep 2017 #103

Amen sister!!!!!!! all american girl Sep 2017 #183

Is that a rhetorical question? Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #65

As you suspected, I do not expect to receive an answer... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #70

We have much in common in the way we see things. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #71

It's so simple: Bernie Sanders is the root of all evil! Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #4

They were his followers and he did not say anything as I recall. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #21

Bernie has done his own (recent) bashing of the Party Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2017 #119

The media assumes Bernie will be... check077 Sep 2017 #198

The OP is about his supporters, not him. George II Sep 2017 #55

Good constructive criticism mcar Sep 2017 #5

Yep. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #6

ha juxtaposed Sep 2017 #13

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Ughh.. and so it continues disillusioned73 Sep 2017 #7

Wow. A "handful of Sanders loyalists" is this scary to "prominent Democrats"?! aikoaiko Sep 2017 #8

Scary? MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #15

Yes, you are supposed to keep listening and the best part is you will. aikoaiko Sep 2017 #19

It is tearing the party down. It needs to stop...we don't need a potential Presidential Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #26

Nah, I don't have time to listen to his negative droning. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #27

If you say so. aikoaiko Sep 2017 #38

God love a duck. OilemFirchen Sep 2017 #10

"Unsourced"? Half of the article linked here is direct quotes, including the people who said them.. George II Sep 2017 #17

One source in each. A has-been and a wannabe. OilemFirchen Sep 2017 #30

Anyone here saw the original Harris posts... knows the story is absolutely true...and it needs Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #28

What needs to stop is citing Politico. OilemFirchen Sep 2017 #34

some stories on Politico are spot on. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #160

+1 progressoid Sep 2017 #163

Sadly, Nina Turner is leading the charge. George II Sep 2017 #11

She just won't stop leftofcool Sep 2017 #32

Does she still enjoy "protected" status here? Any official word yet? I mean... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #53

I've asked the administrators about that, no response yet. George II Sep 2017 #54

"Our Revolution" now supports Republicans, right? Shouldn't that mean... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #59

Below is my question in ATA. I wish it would be addressed soon. George II Sep 2017 #61

A Very Fair Question Me. Sep 2017 #88

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NT is still protected and may not be criticized comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #114

I wonder if Nina Turner can explain why Vermont doesn't have single payer. R B Garr Sep 2017 #92

She can't explain my shit, she tosses out bombs time for Perez to put on Historic NY Sep 2017 #121

This message was self-deleted by its author comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #179

"demands for ideological purity"... LexVegas Sep 2017 #20

I've seen the damage purity tests have wrought on the right. I'm a moderate Democrat. Trust Buster Sep 2017 #24

++++++++ JHan Sep 2017 #69

Yep! leftofcool Sep 2017 #106

I am Left-Center. Blue_true Sep 2017 #215

K&R Gothmog Sep 2017 #29

Dems have been handed Snackshack Sep 2017 #35

Bernie and his backers are still attacking the party now. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #41

I Did What Now? ProfessorGAC Sep 2017 #142

And while you are at it, stop being so popular Bernie. You're making us look bad! jalan48 Sep 2017 #36

These threads need to stop! Dustlawyer Sep 2017 #42

Ill never stop calling out DINOs! nt WinstonSmith00 Sep 2017 #43

You seem to have forgotten your sarcasm tag... GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #77

Many of them arent Democrats and never were. padfun Sep 2017 #81

they are planning protests of her book tour OKNancy Sep 2017 #44

That is sick. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #47

omfg, that is pure insanity. They are apparently just fine with Trump. R B Garr Sep 2017 #73

The Bros and Trumpers are indistinguishable at this point. nt Maven Sep 2017 #84

I think they need another cause leftofcool Sep 2017 #110

Uh-oh - I got a hide for pointing out how childish these protests are. KitSileya Sep 2017 #124

Oh FFS! mcar Sep 2017 #129

This is fucked up on all levels, republicans are laughing all the way to 2018 elections. Old Vet Sep 2017 #145

As much as I don't like liquid diamond Sep 2017 #166

Not DACA, but Hillary's book BainsBane Sep 2017 #174

It is in Russia's best interest... woundedkarma Sep 2017 #46

And yet you paint a rather one-sided picture. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #49

EXACTLY!!!!! Duppers Sep 2017 #193

Stop ringing that god damned cockamaimie bell! longship Sep 2017 #48

Correct GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #76

As far as I can tell Bernie and Hillary aren't running against each other again.... Chakaconcarne Sep 2017 #50

That's not what the discussion is about. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #62

they need to be out looking for the bots and the trolls mopinko Sep 2017 #56

I'm not sure I see the point of this post or story ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #60

That's projection, Skippy SecularMotion Sep 2017 #66

I had one of them attack me on Twitter just now. Scoopster Sep 2017 #64

People who hated Politico yesterday love it today--and vice versa. n/t QC Sep 2017 #67

"Bernie Backers" Roy Rolling Sep 2017 #68

Read the article, please. George II Sep 2017 #74

"Are they accusing me?" --- Were you there? NurseJackie Sep 2017 #90

Are you among the ones that are attacking Democrats? Amimnoch Sep 2017 #120

So much for Politico being a bad source... berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #78

Yes, and yesterday... LovingA2andMI Sep 2017 #85

Get used to it GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #83

I also heard that climate change is actually a result of Bernie's flatulence! Still In Wisconsin Sep 2017 #89

I'm so glad that the good Democrat, Al Gore, is in the news now about climate R B Garr Sep 2017 #96

Al Gore... one of my proudest votes ever. Still In Wisconsin Sep 2017 #113

uh huh snort Sep 2017 #91

Seems like a tall order ejbr Sep 2017 #94

"most popular politician"? How so please. George II Sep 2017 #98

Here's one source ejbr Sep 2017 #100

No one outside of Vermont were permitted to rate him in that poll. George II Sep 2017 #104

Then they need to fix that headline ejbr Sep 2017 #117

Yes they do. This has been debated a dozen times here, people (not necessarily you).... George II Sep 2017 #122

What particular facts do you mean? BainsBane Sep 2017 #102

Then he should have no problem ejbr Sep 2017 #105

That presumes he wants the behavior to stop BainsBane Sep 2017 #115

Then he should be removed from leadership n/t ejbr Sep 2017 #118

Yes he should. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #127

You read my mind. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #141

The most popular politician is one such statement that is without foundation BainsBane Sep 2017 #112

So who did you find to be the most popular? ejbr Sep 2017 #116

Obama is much more popular than Bernie. n/t seaglass Sep 2017 #161

Active politicians n/t ejbr Sep 2017 #167

Moving goalposts. n/t seaglass Sep 2017 #168

Just one time ejbr Sep 2017 #169

Alright then Plucketeer Sep 2017 #148

It is off the table......... roomtomove Sep 2017 #95

I can relate with the Democratic Party. Amimnoch Sep 2017 #108

Isn't it time for Bernie to apologize? NBachers Sep 2017 #109

Really. Amimnoch Sep 2017 #111

Are they Bernie Backers or Russian trolls? TheDebbieDee Sep 2017 #123

I am constantly amazed h2ebits Sep 2017 #128

Indeed leftstreet Sep 2017 #138

You're right we do need to be working together to beat the GOP. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #154

You're only in control of your own actions scipan Sep 2017 #164

Yup, same old, same old... Raine Sep 2017 #187

bernie sanders is not a Democrat. never has been, never will be nt msongs Sep 2017 #165

Yep! They did, do and will. Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #170

"outside agitators"? Who wrote this...Zombie Jesse Helms? Ken Burch Sep 2017 #190

TT, please Duppers Sep 2017 #194

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