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In reply to the discussion: I don't understand Bernie's Medicare for all [View all]Hoyt
(54,770 posts)6. Premiums would be replaced by big tax increases. Probably worth it, but I keep thinking about
Last edited Thu Sep 14, 2017, 08:17 PM - Edit history (1)
what happened in California and Vermont when legislators did some calculations and said, "oh who is going to tell taxpayers about this," not to mention voters who defeated Colorado's single payer proposal.
Other countries make it work, but those countries make some tough decisions that would have people squealing here.
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Premiums would be replaced by big tax increases. Probably worth it, but I keep thinking about
Hoyt
Sep 2017
#6
As I understand it, the necessary tax hike was more than any legislator had the guts to
Hoyt
Sep 2017
#10
I think California is plenty big, and they've been a leader in healthcare reform. But they
Hoyt
Sep 2017
#13
No, but California even investigated getting a waiver to pool current Medicare, Medicaid, etc.,
Hoyt
Sep 2017
#19
Please explain how an employer might lose a "tax break" if they didn't have to pay as much toward
Hoyt
Sep 2017
#23
Medi-Cal is a pretty big system -- 12.5 million beneficiaries. And California has been a the
Hoyt
Sep 2017
#40
Have you ever consider the job losses involved? I tell you single payer won't work.
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#21
People hate taxes and will not go for it...particularly those with employer based insurance.
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#22
Look, I get it. But Hillary isn't president so you don't have to push to her "Never gonna happen"...
TCJ70
Sep 2017
#26
First of all, in theory it might. Two different single payer bills will involve different details.
StevieM
Sep 2017
#46
She was referring to the upcoming administration. She wasn't making a sweeping statement about
StevieM
Sep 2017
#49
You're picking out words in order to make a point that is not consistent with what the debate was.
StevieM
Sep 2017
#51
If you get health care from your employer, you don't see yourself paying for premiums...
brooklynite
Sep 2017
#31
I think a good number of folks here don't understand how Medicare works. Currently we pay into
still_one
Sep 2017
#7
As I understand it, a Medi-Gap or supplemental policies sold after January 1, 2006, do not include
still_one
Sep 2017
#41
We need to see the plan scored by CBO or a dispassionate and independent think tank.
DemocratSinceBirth
Sep 2017
#36
BINGO! Because we KNOW the government is REALLY good at keeping tabs on where money goes
snooper2
Sep 2017
#58
Why isn't his financing plan included in the bill? Senators, both Democratic and republican....
George II
Sep 2017
#57
The GOP will use this to demonize us and we will lost our chance in 18 and 20...stupid and more
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#55