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KY_EnviroGuy

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44. A big mess!

Sat Oct 7, 2017, 08:07 AM

Oct 2017

I see from the generation table that there's also seven private or corporate operators as well, perhaps some in isolated zones. Looks like around 20% of the total capacity.

This is a huge physical, political, and financial train wreck - currently and historically!

I can't see any possibility of the current political structure in Washington having the ability or will-power to get-er-done.

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With the destroyed power grid on the island of Puerto Rico... [View all] cbreezen Oct 2017 OP

how do you pack dweller Oct 2017 #1

You got me! cbreezen Oct 2017 #2

Why I love DU so much.... Pachamama Oct 2017 #3

well, my first thought was to suggest dweller Oct 2017 #4

I am a Dr Who fan...as are many DUers...so a Tardis suggestion would have really been appropriate Pachamama Oct 2017 #6

🙏🏻 dweller Oct 2017 #7

well... keroro gunsou Oct 2017 #11

I think you are hitting upon an even bigger concept that needs to be looked at... Pachamama Oct 2017 #5

I am concerned that the people of Puerto Rico, like all of us, cbreezen Oct 2017 #12

Also wave energy should be explored. PR is in "the middle of an ocean...big water". brush Oct 2017 #33

Wind farms i.e. windmills would be great also Not Ruth Oct 2017 #39

Yes. It's wise to not rely on just one type of energy generation. Sort of like not putting all... brush Oct 2017 #40

I think most of those concepts have been looked at dumbcat Oct 2017 #18

I'm an idealist and I believe this can be done... cbreezen Oct 2017 #24

Post removed Post removed Oct 2017 #8

Grid not that much relevant to source. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #9

You need about 5-7 acres per megawatt of solar. Kaleva Oct 2017 #30

Thanks, see data I posted, below - Post No. 41. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #42

As KyEnviro JustAnotherGen Oct 2017 #10

It's always about the money... cbreezen Oct 2017 #17

Me too JustAnotherGen Oct 2017 #19

Wouldn't this be more possible right now? cbreezen Oct 2017 #25

I think that the massive debt and mismanagement of the power company there will scare away anyone Lee-Lee Oct 2017 #13

Argh... cbreezen Oct 2017 #14

Sounds like the urban planners of Dubai and Puerto Rico love the bling Not Ruth Oct 2017 #38

Great idea, but there's not time to make that happen. MineralMan Oct 2017 #15

Maybe it can happen before the next hurricane, eh? cbreezen Oct 2017 #26

Yup. Straw Man Oct 2017 #32

It is inefficient to build things twice Not Ruth Oct 2017 #37

But their power came from a hydroelectric dam? Blue_Tires Oct 2017 #16

There is difficulty in "cleaning up" the public power company dumbcat Oct 2017 #20

A big mess! KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #44

There are already large solar farms on Puerto Rico csziggy Oct 2017 #21

Thanks for the info... cbreezen Oct 2017 #28

It hardly matters what the people of Puerto Rico want malaise Oct 2017 #22

Ahhhh... not you, too! cbreezen Oct 2017 #27

The US 1% decide what goes on in sovereign countries malaise Oct 2017 #31

I'm guessing the people of Puerto Rico want the electricity turned on. JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2017 #23

the silver lining is DonCoquixote Oct 2017 #29

Yep this sure helps the independence movement malaise Oct 2017 #34

and Chavez DonCoquixote Oct 2017 #46

Is independence different than commonwealth? Not Ruth Oct 2017 #36

yes DonCoquixote Oct 2017 #47

Trump is driving the GOP/Oscar Rivera agenda of Puerto Rican independence? Not Ruth Oct 2017 #48

The answer: this is a shell game DonCoquixote Oct 2017 #50

Elon will bring Puerto Rico into the 22nd century Not Ruth Oct 2017 #35

PR Generation Potential, Pre-storm KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #41

I note no mention of hydro-electric... cbreezen Oct 2017 #51

Don't think hydro is viable. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #52

I guess one must make a decision... cbreezen Oct 2017 #53

You summed it up quite wisely. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #54

What a wonderful discussion... I'd almost forgotten cbreezen Oct 2017 #55

Thanks, Cbreeezen. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #56

It could be done but DT45 is more concerned with paying the "bonds holders" first or CK_John Oct 2017 #43

They are talking to Elon RandiFan1290 Oct 2017 #45

Elon could possibly pay off a great deal of Puerto Rican debt in exchange for providing their energy Not Ruth Oct 2017 #49