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oberliner

(58,724 posts) Mon Oct 9, 2017, 07:05 AM Oct 2017

Happy Columbus Day! [View all]

Especially to my Italian-American friends!

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Happy Columbus Day! [View all] oberliner Oct 2017 OP

... Lochloosa Oct 2017 #1

LOL! I should have seen your post first before raven mad Oct 2017 #124

Anche Lei ! Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #2

As I noted in a previous thread: Orrex Oct 2017 #3

Happy annihilation of native Americans day. Lunabell Oct 2017 #4

That's not what the holiday celebrates oberliner Oct 2017 #6

Wrong obamanut2012 Oct 2017 #30

What do you think it celebrates? oberliner Oct 2017 #37

The day is named after Columbus. ExciteBike66 Oct 2017 #51

I have to agree MurderMittenLiberal Oct 2017 #60

Well, your "vibe" needs a history lesson Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #68

This Vibe MurderMittenLiberal Oct 2017 #133

So. You must have been sick that day. Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #135

Nope, I was there... MurderMittenLiberal Oct 2017 #138

Why don't you explain to me what the fuck an island Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #139

i couldn't care less MurderMittenLiberal Oct 2017 #140

It is EXACTLY why it was made a national holiday Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #141

Christ.... MurderMittenLiberal Oct 2017 #142

St. Patrick's Day is for CATHOLICS in Ireland Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #143

Right... MurderMittenLiberal Oct 2017 #172

Yes. It became a federal HOLIDAY as a day for Italian Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #173

You're Correct MurderMittenLiberal Oct 2017 #174

So what's your point? Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #175

"What it once was is no longer what it is" MurderMittenLiberal Oct 2017 #177

Research the history of Columbus Day and the history of the confederate flag oberliner Oct 2017 #73

It would only be fair to ask the Taino how they feel about it. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2017 #77

The History of Columbus Day MurderMittenLiberal Oct 2017 #134

But with respect to your earlier comment oberliner Oct 2017 #149

And to that point.. MurderMittenLiberal Oct 2017 #171

My family is from Italy, it does not celebrate us, it celebrates a mass murderer obamanut2012 Oct 2017 #80

St. Joseph's Day is what we celebrated tenderfoot Oct 2017 #90

In Wilmington DE the Italians treestar Oct 2017 #122

That was not its original intent. delisen Oct 2017 #40

Maybe today Lithos Oct 2017 #87

St. Patrick's Day is not a federal holiday. geardaddy Oct 2017 #100

FDR decided to make it a federal holiday oberliner Oct 2017 #108

But, I thought you said it was to celebrate Italian-Americans? geardaddy Oct 2017 #109

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Lol. cwydro Oct 2017 #10

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Lol again. Nt cwydro Oct 2017 #14

Umm, no and no matter how many times you post it. The American flag didn't exist in 1492. nt PunkinPi Oct 2017 #16

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Again, no, it didn't need to be "discovered". nt PunkinPi Oct 2017 #21

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tex, HAB911 Oct 2017 #20

Thank goodness for MIRT. cwydro Oct 2017 #29

Wow! HAB911 Oct 2017 #32

Native Americans "discovered " America. Lunabell Oct 2017 #17

MANY of them came across the Ice Bridge from ASIA ... yuiyoshida Oct 2017 #167

Happy Eurocentrism Day HopeAgain Oct 2017 #7

Italian-Americans faced severe discrimination in the US oberliner Oct 2017 #9

So let's change the Name to Italian-american Day HopeAgain Oct 2017 #15

America is named for Amerigo Vespucci oberliner Oct 2017 #41

History would be more valuable if we spent more time HopeAgain Oct 2017 #66

So how does Christopher Columbus represent Italian-American accomplishments? Demit Oct 2017 #54

They should celebrate JustAnotherGen Oct 2017 #76

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Native Americans.......... HAB911 Oct 2017 #27

Yes indeed! leftofcool Oct 2017 #52

Celebrate Italian-Americans, but not Columbus, who was condemned/arrested in his own time highplainsdem Oct 2017 #12

Yes! Lunabell Oct 2017 #18

That is indeed what the holiday celebrates oberliner Oct 2017 #22

The name of the holiday needs to be changed. It isn't just the "cruelty of thee 15th century" that highplainsdem Oct 2017 #25

No it doesn't oberliner Oct 2017 #34

If St. Patrick had been known for enslaving, torturing and killing the natives of Ireland, highplainsdem Oct 2017 #43

St Patrick is a saint, and March 17 is the traditional date of his death. Demit Oct 2017 #61

It's a CATHOLIC holiday in Ireland. Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #64

No shit it's different here. It's been commandeered by commercial interests. Demit Oct 2017 #69

That's the point Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #71

You are in a bubble....people outside Lars39 Oct 2017 #49

People are also... LanternWaste Oct 2017 #70

+1 million geardaddy Oct 2017 #72

Anti-Columbus day is coded dog-whistle for anti-Italian Americans. bluepen Oct 2017 #24

That's ridiculous. highplainsdem Oct 2017 #28

And yet a common accusation. bluepen Oct 2017 #161

bullshit Portland_Anni Oct 2017 #38

Of course Mussolini is off the hook. Of course! bluepen Oct 2017 #162

No it isn't, just as anti-trumpism isn't coded dog-whistle for anti-Bavarian.... George II Oct 2017 #110

So the coded language and so-called dog-whistling bluepen Oct 2017 #160

No, it should be Native Americans day. NT raccoon Oct 2017 #26

How would that celebrate Italian-American culture? oberliner Oct 2017 #35

wrong Portland_Anni Oct 2017 #39

You think Columbus Day exists to "throw red meat to genocide denial" ? oberliner Oct 2017 #42

Some of my ancestors were Germans. When is German American day? NT raccoon Oct 2017 #44

October 6th. n/t tammywammy Oct 2017 #45

Shucks, it's already past. Nt raccoon Oct 2017 #46

Ditto. And others were Swedish, Swiss, French, etc. Either spooky3 Oct 2017 #48

Germans were considered white Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #62

Tell that to the German-Americans geardaddy Oct 2017 #75

Not the same thing Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #96

So were German-Americans geardaddy Oct 2017 #97

Did they pass a law to prohibit German Immigration? Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #136

Where is the law that prohibited Italians from immigrating? geardaddy Oct 2017 #137

Immigration Act of 1924 Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #146

OK, I stand corrected. geardaddy Oct 2017 #148

It's cool. Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #150

I'm all for celebrating Italian-Americans. geardaddy Oct 2017 #151

I would be more than amenable to a name change Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #153

Yep, I understand. geardaddy Oct 2017 #154

I agree with you in a way. femmocrat Oct 2017 #74

There is St. Joseph's Day tenderfoot Oct 2017 #84

Yes indeed oberliner Oct 2017 #88

I never understood that as an alternate name on this specific day. Lokilooney Oct 2017 #158

Gross, get woke, Columbus was the Harvey Weinstein of his time Not Ruth Oct 2017 #31

Not relevant to the holiday oberliner Oct 2017 #36

So...why is it called Columbus Day? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #93

Happy Columbo Day! Buns_of_Fire Oct 2017 #33

HOW DARE THEY ERECT A STATUE DEPICTING TOBACCO USE!!! Lokilooney Oct 2017 #157

I don't agree with celebrating him but my son is happy to have the day off :) Luciferous Oct 2017 #47

They aren't celebrating him oberliner Oct 2017 #53

Celebrating "Italian-American" culture with flags of another country? Demit Oct 2017 #58

I'll say this about Italian-Americans...they really know how to celebrate! Glorfindel Oct 2017 #50

Then re-Name the Day for a truly great Italian. raging moderate Oct 2017 #55

Imagine in your mind that it is named after one of those people oberliner Oct 2017 #56

It would make better sense. raging moderate Oct 2017 #57

Or name it for the inventor of Lasagna. raging moderate Oct 2017 #59

Happy #IndigenousPeoplesDay. The Genocide Survivors Persist. L. Coyote Oct 2017 #63

Like. tenderfoot Oct 2017 #92

John Fugelsang: I say we ditch #ColumbusDay & make it Dick Gregory Day. L. Coyote Oct 2017 #98

As someone of Italian descent I say .... jcmaine72 Oct 2017 #65

Change it to Explorers Day JustAnotherGen Oct 2017 #81

Here is an interesting tidbit about the reason for the name oberliner Oct 2017 #86

And the Knights of Columbus is a right wing anti-choice, misogynistic society. n/t geardaddy Oct 2017 #91

Yes, like many other Catholic, Orthodox Jewish or observant Muslim organizations oberliner Oct 2017 #103

Who doesn't know that? JustAnotherGen Oct 2017 #95

Most people under 50? oberliner Oct 2017 #104

Um - I don't think that's true JustAnotherGen Oct 2017 #117

This message was self-deleted by its author tenderfoot Oct 2017 #67

LOL geardaddy Oct 2017 #78

Grazie mille tenderfoot Oct 2017 #79

Oh my! demmiblue Oct 2017 #101

vero tenderfoot Oct 2017 #102

No comment. demmiblue Oct 2017 #105

And for many areas of the country, this is when the leaves change is in the peak! (nt) question everything Oct 2017 #82

Columbus represents the beginning of the end for millions of people. A catalyst of destruction. SweetieD Oct 2017 #83

Columbus Day is about celebrating Italian-American heritage and culture oberliner Oct 2017 #85

So you're saying Columbus was never about Columbus oegthe Oct 2017 #94

That is correct oberliner Oct 2017 #111

Thank you! oegthe Oct 2017 #121

Do Italian-Americans still face systemic oppression and neglect in this country? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #89

Go away. demmiblue Oct 2017 #99

I support my friends in the Italian-American community oberliner Oct 2017 #106

Yeah, and the f word means a bundle of sticks in modern day speech. demmiblue Oct 2017 #115

You're not our friend tenderfoot Oct 2017 #116

I consider everyone on DU to be my friend oberliner Oct 2017 #118

Non stai ingannando nessuno tenderfoot Oct 2017 #119

Ma ti capisco JustAnotherGen Oct 2017 #125

Grazie mille. Ti amo anch'io. tenderfoot Oct 2017 #126

Welcome to DU, by the way oberliner Oct 2017 #129

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Aw shucks! JustAnotherGen Oct 2017 #130

I am not trying to deceive anyone oberliner Oct 2017 #128

Oh, ma sei tu. tenderfoot Oct 2017 #132

OK oberliner Oct 2017 #156

I still want to know what he "discovered"........... raven mad Oct 2017 #107

Separate the holiday and celebration from the 500 year old man oberliner Oct 2017 #112

Columbus Day is when ppl who think immigrants are thieves, rapists & murderers... tenderfoot Oct 2017 #113

Truth, and one of my uncles are one.......... raven mad Oct 2017 #123

Southern European Catholic and Indigenous Americans day. hunter Oct 2017 #114

LOL JHan Oct 2017 #120

Columbus was not Italian American Not Ruth Oct 2017 #127

There is an interesting answer to that oberliner Oct 2017 #147

Thanks for understanding that this is not about celebrating genocide. Willie Pep Oct 2017 #144

If my Italian-American friends want to embrace this as their holiday I'm all for it. lpbk2713 Oct 2017 #145

Columbus was from the Genovese family .... kwassa Oct 2017 #152

The history behind the naming of the holiday is fascinating oberliner Oct 2017 #155

Italians had it good, compared to blacks. kwassa Oct 2017 #159

Your post is ridiculously wrong. Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #163

I am not wrong at all. kwassa Oct 2017 #164

I did not compare them to AA Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #165

I never said that the Irish had it rougher. kwassa Oct 2017 #166

Well then what exactly does your first sentence mean Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #168

I grouped Irish, Italians and Jews together ... kwassa Oct 2017 #169

Italians were not considered white in the US until the Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #170

Happy near-genocide of the population living in the Americas guillaumeb Oct 2017 #176