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JustAnotherGen

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81. Change it to Explorers Day

Mon Oct 9, 2017, 11:04 AM

Oct 2017

I have friends of northern European descent poking the bears lair with a Happy Leif Erikson day meme.

So I google it - and lo and behold - October 9th is Leif Erikson day.

We ought to call it Explorers or Immigrants day.

Now - my older Sister In Law lives in Genoa and there is celebratory stuff that happens there on 12th. My husband is Calabrese, she is, her husband is, etc. etc. So they don't really get into it.

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Happy Columbus Day! [View all] oberliner Oct 2017 OP

... Lochloosa Oct 2017 #1

LOL! I should have seen your post first before raven mad Oct 2017 #124

Anche Lei ! Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #2

As I noted in a previous thread: Orrex Oct 2017 #3

Happy annihilation of native Americans day. Lunabell Oct 2017 #4

That's not what the holiday celebrates oberliner Oct 2017 #6

Wrong obamanut2012 Oct 2017 #30

What do you think it celebrates? oberliner Oct 2017 #37

The day is named after Columbus. ExciteBike66 Oct 2017 #51

I have to agree MurderMittenLiberal Oct 2017 #60

Well, your "vibe" needs a history lesson Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #68

This Vibe MurderMittenLiberal Oct 2017 #133

So. You must have been sick that day. Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #135

Nope, I was there... MurderMittenLiberal Oct 2017 #138

Why don't you explain to me what the fuck an island Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #139

i couldn't care less MurderMittenLiberal Oct 2017 #140

It is EXACTLY why it was made a national holiday Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #141

Christ.... MurderMittenLiberal Oct 2017 #142

St. Patrick's Day is for CATHOLICS in Ireland Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #143

Right... MurderMittenLiberal Oct 2017 #172

Yes. It became a federal HOLIDAY as a day for Italian Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #173

You're Correct MurderMittenLiberal Oct 2017 #174

So what's your point? Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #175

"What it once was is no longer what it is" MurderMittenLiberal Oct 2017 #177

Research the history of Columbus Day and the history of the confederate flag oberliner Oct 2017 #73

It would only be fair to ask the Taino how they feel about it. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2017 #77

The History of Columbus Day MurderMittenLiberal Oct 2017 #134

But with respect to your earlier comment oberliner Oct 2017 #149

And to that point.. MurderMittenLiberal Oct 2017 #171

My family is from Italy, it does not celebrate us, it celebrates a mass murderer obamanut2012 Oct 2017 #80

St. Joseph's Day is what we celebrated tenderfoot Oct 2017 #90

In Wilmington DE the Italians treestar Oct 2017 #122

That was not its original intent. delisen Oct 2017 #40

Maybe today Lithos Oct 2017 #87

St. Patrick's Day is not a federal holiday. geardaddy Oct 2017 #100

FDR decided to make it a federal holiday oberliner Oct 2017 #108

But, I thought you said it was to celebrate Italian-Americans? geardaddy Oct 2017 #109

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Lol. cwydro Oct 2017 #10

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Lol again. Nt cwydro Oct 2017 #14

Umm, no and no matter how many times you post it. The American flag didn't exist in 1492. nt PunkinPi Oct 2017 #16

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Again, no, it didn't need to be "discovered". nt PunkinPi Oct 2017 #21

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tex, HAB911 Oct 2017 #20

Thank goodness for MIRT. cwydro Oct 2017 #29

Wow! HAB911 Oct 2017 #32

Native Americans "discovered " America. Lunabell Oct 2017 #17

MANY of them came across the Ice Bridge from ASIA ... yuiyoshida Oct 2017 #167

Happy Eurocentrism Day HopeAgain Oct 2017 #7

Italian-Americans faced severe discrimination in the US oberliner Oct 2017 #9

So let's change the Name to Italian-american Day HopeAgain Oct 2017 #15

America is named for Amerigo Vespucci oberliner Oct 2017 #41

History would be more valuable if we spent more time HopeAgain Oct 2017 #66

So how does Christopher Columbus represent Italian-American accomplishments? Demit Oct 2017 #54

They should celebrate JustAnotherGen Oct 2017 #76

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2017 #11

Native Americans.......... HAB911 Oct 2017 #27

Yes indeed! leftofcool Oct 2017 #52

Celebrate Italian-Americans, but not Columbus, who was condemned/arrested in his own time highplainsdem Oct 2017 #12

Yes! Lunabell Oct 2017 #18

That is indeed what the holiday celebrates oberliner Oct 2017 #22

The name of the holiday needs to be changed. It isn't just the "cruelty of thee 15th century" that highplainsdem Oct 2017 #25

No it doesn't oberliner Oct 2017 #34

If St. Patrick had been known for enslaving, torturing and killing the natives of Ireland, highplainsdem Oct 2017 #43

St Patrick is a saint, and March 17 is the traditional date of his death. Demit Oct 2017 #61

It's a CATHOLIC holiday in Ireland. Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #64

No shit it's different here. It's been commandeered by commercial interests. Demit Oct 2017 #69

That's the point Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #71

You are in a bubble....people outside Lars39 Oct 2017 #49

People are also... LanternWaste Oct 2017 #70

+1 million geardaddy Oct 2017 #72

Anti-Columbus day is coded dog-whistle for anti-Italian Americans. bluepen Oct 2017 #24

That's ridiculous. highplainsdem Oct 2017 #28

And yet a common accusation. bluepen Oct 2017 #161

bullshit Portland_Anni Oct 2017 #38

Of course Mussolini is off the hook. Of course! bluepen Oct 2017 #162

No it isn't, just as anti-trumpism isn't coded dog-whistle for anti-Bavarian.... George II Oct 2017 #110

So the coded language and so-called dog-whistling bluepen Oct 2017 #160

No, it should be Native Americans day. NT raccoon Oct 2017 #26

How would that celebrate Italian-American culture? oberliner Oct 2017 #35

wrong Portland_Anni Oct 2017 #39

You think Columbus Day exists to "throw red meat to genocide denial" ? oberliner Oct 2017 #42

Some of my ancestors were Germans. When is German American day? NT raccoon Oct 2017 #44

October 6th. n/t tammywammy Oct 2017 #45

Shucks, it's already past. Nt raccoon Oct 2017 #46

Ditto. And others were Swedish, Swiss, French, etc. Either spooky3 Oct 2017 #48

Germans were considered white Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #62

Tell that to the German-Americans geardaddy Oct 2017 #75

Not the same thing Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #96

So were German-Americans geardaddy Oct 2017 #97

Did they pass a law to prohibit German Immigration? Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #136

Where is the law that prohibited Italians from immigrating? geardaddy Oct 2017 #137

Immigration Act of 1924 Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #146

OK, I stand corrected. geardaddy Oct 2017 #148

It's cool. Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #150

I'm all for celebrating Italian-Americans. geardaddy Oct 2017 #151

I would be more than amenable to a name change Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #153

Yep, I understand. geardaddy Oct 2017 #154

I agree with you in a way. femmocrat Oct 2017 #74

There is St. Joseph's Day tenderfoot Oct 2017 #84

Yes indeed oberliner Oct 2017 #88

I never understood that as an alternate name on this specific day. Lokilooney Oct 2017 #158

Gross, get woke, Columbus was the Harvey Weinstein of his time Not Ruth Oct 2017 #31

Not relevant to the holiday oberliner Oct 2017 #36

So...why is it called Columbus Day? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #93

Happy Columbo Day! Buns_of_Fire Oct 2017 #33

HOW DARE THEY ERECT A STATUE DEPICTING TOBACCO USE!!! Lokilooney Oct 2017 #157

I don't agree with celebrating him but my son is happy to have the day off :) Luciferous Oct 2017 #47

They aren't celebrating him oberliner Oct 2017 #53

Celebrating "Italian-American" culture with flags of another country? Demit Oct 2017 #58

I'll say this about Italian-Americans...they really know how to celebrate! Glorfindel Oct 2017 #50

Then re-Name the Day for a truly great Italian. raging moderate Oct 2017 #55

Imagine in your mind that it is named after one of those people oberliner Oct 2017 #56

It would make better sense. raging moderate Oct 2017 #57

Or name it for the inventor of Lasagna. raging moderate Oct 2017 #59

Happy #IndigenousPeoplesDay. The Genocide Survivors Persist. L. Coyote Oct 2017 #63

Like. tenderfoot Oct 2017 #92

John Fugelsang: I say we ditch #ColumbusDay & make it Dick Gregory Day. L. Coyote Oct 2017 #98

As someone of Italian descent I say .... jcmaine72 Oct 2017 #65

Change it to Explorers Day JustAnotherGen Oct 2017 #81

Here is an interesting tidbit about the reason for the name oberliner Oct 2017 #86

And the Knights of Columbus is a right wing anti-choice, misogynistic society. n/t geardaddy Oct 2017 #91

Yes, like many other Catholic, Orthodox Jewish or observant Muslim organizations oberliner Oct 2017 #103

Who doesn't know that? JustAnotherGen Oct 2017 #95

Most people under 50? oberliner Oct 2017 #104

Um - I don't think that's true JustAnotherGen Oct 2017 #117

This message was self-deleted by its author tenderfoot Oct 2017 #67

LOL geardaddy Oct 2017 #78

Grazie mille tenderfoot Oct 2017 #79

Oh my! demmiblue Oct 2017 #101

vero tenderfoot Oct 2017 #102

No comment. demmiblue Oct 2017 #105

And for many areas of the country, this is when the leaves change is in the peak! (nt) question everything Oct 2017 #82

Columbus represents the beginning of the end for millions of people. A catalyst of destruction. SweetieD Oct 2017 #83

Columbus Day is about celebrating Italian-American heritage and culture oberliner Oct 2017 #85

So you're saying Columbus was never about Columbus oegthe Oct 2017 #94

That is correct oberliner Oct 2017 #111

Thank you! oegthe Oct 2017 #121

Do Italian-Americans still face systemic oppression and neglect in this country? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #89

Go away. demmiblue Oct 2017 #99

I support my friends in the Italian-American community oberliner Oct 2017 #106

Yeah, and the f word means a bundle of sticks in modern day speech. demmiblue Oct 2017 #115

You're not our friend tenderfoot Oct 2017 #116

I consider everyone on DU to be my friend oberliner Oct 2017 #118

Non stai ingannando nessuno tenderfoot Oct 2017 #119

Ma ti capisco JustAnotherGen Oct 2017 #125

Grazie mille. Ti amo anch'io. tenderfoot Oct 2017 #126

Welcome to DU, by the way oberliner Oct 2017 #129

Post removed Post removed Oct 2017 #131

Aw shucks! JustAnotherGen Oct 2017 #130

I am not trying to deceive anyone oberliner Oct 2017 #128

Oh, ma sei tu. tenderfoot Oct 2017 #132

OK oberliner Oct 2017 #156

I still want to know what he "discovered"........... raven mad Oct 2017 #107

Separate the holiday and celebration from the 500 year old man oberliner Oct 2017 #112

Columbus Day is when ppl who think immigrants are thieves, rapists & murderers... tenderfoot Oct 2017 #113

Truth, and one of my uncles are one.......... raven mad Oct 2017 #123

Southern European Catholic and Indigenous Americans day. hunter Oct 2017 #114

LOL JHan Oct 2017 #120

Columbus was not Italian American Not Ruth Oct 2017 #127

There is an interesting answer to that oberliner Oct 2017 #147

Thanks for understanding that this is not about celebrating genocide. Willie Pep Oct 2017 #144

If my Italian-American friends want to embrace this as their holiday I'm all for it. lpbk2713 Oct 2017 #145

Columbus was from the Genovese family .... kwassa Oct 2017 #152

The history behind the naming of the holiday is fascinating oberliner Oct 2017 #155

Italians had it good, compared to blacks. kwassa Oct 2017 #159

Your post is ridiculously wrong. Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #163

I am not wrong at all. kwassa Oct 2017 #164

I did not compare them to AA Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #165

I never said that the Irish had it rougher. kwassa Oct 2017 #166

Well then what exactly does your first sentence mean Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #168

I grouped Irish, Italians and Jews together ... kwassa Oct 2017 #169

Italians were not considered white in the US until the Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #170

Happy near-genocide of the population living in the Americas guillaumeb Oct 2017 #176