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LiberalLovinLug

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21. OMG that gov site is so full of hyperbole and downright lies
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 06:34 PM
Oct 2017

"Previous research has found a significant increase in the risk of heart attack in the hours after marijuana use."

https://www.alternet.org/drugs/fact-versus-fiction-three-new-scientific-studies-debunk-marijuana-myths
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28207342


Writing in April in the American Journal of Public Health, an international team of researchers from the United States and Switzerland assessed cumulative cannabis use and cardiovascular risk in a cohort of over 5,000 subjects over a period of more than two decades. Authors reported , "Compared with no marijuana use, cumulative lifetime and recent marijuana use showed no association with incident CVD (cardiovascular disease), stroke or transient ischemic attacks, coronary heart disease, or CVD mortality." They concluded, "In this community-based cohort of young adults followed for more than 25 years, we found no evidence to suggest that cumulative lifetime or recent marijuana use, at levels typical of most recreational, occasional users of marijuana in the United States, affects risk of future CVD events through middle age


"Marijuana users are significantly more likely than nonusers to develop chronic mental disorders, including schizophrenia."

Studies have shown that young people that are susceptible to mental illness and schizophrenia should not be smoking pot as it can make it worse. But that does not apply to the vast majority of users.

" studies show that marijuana use by mothers during pregnancy may be linked to problems with attention, memory, problem-solving skills, and behavior problems in their children."

Same with alcohol. Its not rocket science. If you are pregnant you shouldn't be doing drugs or drinking.

"Marijuana use directly affects the brain — specifically the parts of the brain responsible for memory, learning, attention, decision making, coordination, emotions, and reaction time."

love the way they conflate each of those conditions into one big clusterfuck. All of those conditions are temporary if minor. You don't lose your brain. And the motor skills like attention, decision making, coordination, and reaction time, are negligible even when operating a motor vehicle. In fact one is more attentive driving in a way because you are aware you need to be, and the harm is usually driving too slow than driving too fast. NORML has a variety of studies showing the mild effect it has on motor skills and driving.
http://norml.org/library/item/marijuana-and-driving-a-review-of-the-scientific-evidence


"Smoke is harmful to lung health. Toxins and carcinogens are released when marijuana is burned. When these toxins and carcinogens are smoked, they are inhaled into the lungs, increasing health risks. Smoke from marijuana contains many of the same toxins, irritants, and carcinogens as tobacco smoke."

I'd believe the The National Center for Biotechnology Information journal over a government website:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1277837/

In conclusion, while both tobacco and cannabis smoke have similar properties chemically, their pharmacological activities differ greatly. Components of cannabis smoke minimize some carcinogenic pathways whereas tobacco smoke enhances some. Both types of smoke contain carcinogens and particulate matter that promotes inflammatory immune responses that may enhance the carcinogenic effects of the smoke. However, cannabis typically down-regulates immunologically-generated free radical production by promoting a Th2 immune cytokine profile. Furthermore, THC inhibits the enzyme necessary to activate some of the carcinogens found in smoke. In contrast, tobacco smoke increases the likelihood of carcinogenesis by overcoming normal cellular checkpoint protective mechanisms through the activity of respiratory epithelial cell nicotine receptors. Cannabinoids receptors have not been reported in respiratory epithelial cells (in skin they prevent cancer), and hence the DNA damage checkpoint mechanism should remain intact after prolonged cannabis exposure. Furthermore, nicotine promotes tumor angiogenesis whereas cannabis inhibits it. It is possible that as the cannabis-consuming population ages, the long-term consequences of smoking cannabis may become more similar to what is observed with tobacco. However, current knowledge does not suggest that cannabis smoke will have a carcinogenic potential comparable to that resulting from exposure to tobacco smoke.

It should be noted that with the development of vaporizers, that use the respiratory route for the delivery of carcinogen-free cannabis vapors, the carcinogenic potential of smoked cannabis has been largely eliminated [47,48].



Some other laughable gems from that site:

There is mixed evidence about whether marijuana can cause cancer, partly because most people who use marijuana also use tobacco, a substance that does cause cancer

Ah....no, for one. Most people who use marijuana do NOT smoke tobaco, at least not today. And also...of course its more carcinogenic to smoke both, ITS BECAUSE OF THE NICOTINE NOT THE THC. But further more, marijuana may in fact inhibit cancer growth:

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/279571.php

"THC, the major active component of marijuana, has anti-cancer properties. This compound is known to act through a specific family of cell receptors called cannabinoid receptors," says Dr. Peter McCormick, from UEA's School of Pharmacy.



Poisoning

Eating foods or drinking beverages that contain marijuana have some different risks than smoking marijuana, including a greater risk of poisoning.


Oh my gawd. Can they reach any more? No one has ever died of a marijuana overdose. Only if you injected cyanide into a brownie would it be 'poisonous'.



Sorry but even if there were some small amount of truth somewhere on that page, it has lost all credibility from all the hyperbole, bait-switching and downright lies.

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Marijuana CAN Kill People [View all] JimGinPA Oct 2017 OP
... Duppers Oct 2017 #1
Whaaaaa??? Just watch that movie called Reefer Madness. japple Oct 2017 #2
Mary Jane is in the process of being legalized here in Canada LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #6
Someone once said that a drunk driver will blow right through a STOP sign... SeattleVet Oct 2017 #18
That's a good one! tecelote Oct 2017 #19
lol LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #25
Once in college, my bf was driving on the highway and everyone was beeping adigal Oct 2017 #31
A friend told me about a high school classmate of his who was in a car being "chased" by tblue37 Oct 2017 #38
LOL! Thay is hilarious!! I guess speed slows down like time seems to! Nt adigal Oct 2017 #41
( Timidly raises hand)..... dixiegrrrrl Oct 2017 #47
the last time I drove high - OriginalGeek Oct 2017 #54
Thats great!!! calimary Oct 2017 #55
A few years ago, a friend of mine got pulled over after burning one with a friend. BobTheSubgenius Oct 2017 #24
Yup LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #27
The law in Washington state when they legalized it went way overboard on trying to brewens Oct 2017 #45
",,, thats some heavy shit , man!" Cryptoad Oct 2017 #3
And die laughing? eleny Oct 2017 #4
Here's little rain on your parade per the CDC Persondem Oct 2017 #5
Baloney put there by Session minions.... mbusby Oct 2017 #7
Quiet now, else Ill sic the piano player on you, ya hear? NightWatcher Oct 2017 #10
i love that movie. In the 70s the University had it as a fund raiser for NORMAL. samnsara Oct 2017 #12
Oooooooooo.... Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #15
Well, technically anything can kill us. progressoid Oct 2017 #9
the heart attack scare made its way around the US about 4-5 yrs ago.. samnsara Oct 2017 #11
Have you tried Purple Trainwreck? NightWatcher Oct 2017 #13
just the idea that you onethatcares Oct 2017 #16
I also reside in the State of duh and let me just say NightWatcher Oct 2017 #22
I would not allow that onethatcares Oct 2017 #26
I'm a Florida native who just moved to Denver OceanChick Oct 2017 #30
Is it really legal everywhere--even in Kansas? Would it work for chronic pain? (Back, neck, and tblue37 Oct 2017 #39
Absolutely! OceanChick Oct 2017 #42
Good luck to you. MS is a terrible disease. Wish you ever success in fighting it. grantcart Oct 2017 #43
Good for you, glad you're here. mountain grammy Oct 2017 #52
Cannabis today is amazing, so many hybrids out there dixiegrrrrl Oct 2017 #49
OMG that gov site is so full of hyperbole and downright lies LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #21
You are reaching and do not make a good case for pot having no bad effects. Persondem Oct 2017 #37
Quite the deft movement of goalposts. LanternWaste Oct 2017 #46
Smoking anything is bad for you Calculating Oct 2017 #50
I don't think it has no bad effects LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #53
I wonder Soxfan58 Oct 2017 #51
ROFL!!!!!!!!! BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2017 #8
I'd agree for most part. But actually, the SMOKING can cause lung cancer... Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #14
Nope, sorry... Callmecrazy Oct 2017 #17
Correct Bradical79 Oct 2017 #29
Again, inhaling smoke into your lungs is harmful, by definition. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #44
Also incorrect... Callmecrazy Oct 2017 #56
there are a small portion of users who could potentially die from smoking. Kali Oct 2017 #20
That's why it must at least be decriminalized. moriah Oct 2017 #35
And it can save people by being one of the best ways to wean an opioid addict off Dustlawyer Oct 2017 #23
+ It also helps us non-addict insomniacs sleep. Duppers Oct 2017 #40
I doubt smoking ANYTHING is good for your lungs Skittles Oct 2017 #28
You are correct. Scruffy1 Oct 2017 #32
it kills me that I smoked cigs for so long Skittles Oct 2017 #33
Edibles and vaporizers are alternatives. moriah Oct 2017 #36
I already knew that if a large enough crate of marijuana fell on you, PufPuf23 Oct 2017 #34
I swear Soxfan58 Oct 2017 #48
once upon a time... donotpissoffacow Oct 2017 #57
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